Hyperion bankrupt?

[giZmo350]

Why do you guys keep posting about a situation of which you don't have the facts?

It's not like an apple is going to fall your head! :lol:

[danbeaver]

The blame lies with the weak leadership of Amiga Inc and their lack of any real interest in the existing IP.

This Amiga, Inc (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga,_Inc.)??

[eliyahu]

Less and less people buy into OS4 and when asked for reasons why they blame it on the other NG OS'es

name five.

in year 2015 people can't justify 3000 euros for average computer hardware so the user base can only shrink. It has became a rich mans hobby.

at least 200 people disagree. and the X1000 isn't 3000EUR. oh, and for the record, i bought my first system for less than $600. my next machine was only $400. that may be expensive in your eyes, but it wasn't in mine. please don't take your feelings, project them on everyone else, and then draw false conclusions.

-- eliyahu

[danbeaver]

Why do you guys keep posting about a situation of which you don't have the facts?

It's not like an apple is going to fall your head! :lol:

If that refers to Issac Newton, no apple fell on his head; he used its mass to calculate the speed it would need to travel to be in orbit around the earth where centrifugal force is equal to centripedal force.  This Calculation was used by Halley to name the comet.

[OlafS3]

name five.


at least 200 people disagree. and the X1000 isn't 3000EUR. oh, and for the record, i bought my first system for less than $600. my next machine was only $400. that may be expensive in your eyes, but it wasn't in mine. please don't take your feelings, project them on everyone else, and then draw false conclusions.

-- eliyahu

it is a hobby for all of us and people spend lots of money on hobbies, it is a matter of interest and available resources. I "overjumped" the PPC time so for me PPC is just another platform and has no special meaning. Others prefer AmigaOS or MorphOS just because of that so we will always have different views on it.

@Topic

We will see what happens after 4.3.. Perhaps nothing like some say, perhaps Hyperion will have big troubles like other say. I am no attorney and I do not know Belgium laws in detail, expecially I do not know what now exactly happens around it because that is only known to the appointed attorney. And even if (worst case) Hyperion really would stay bankrupt then assets are sold so I assume that there are people interested in (at least) keeping how it is, most development is done by voluntary doing it in their spare time so I do not think that much changes to current situation. And existing hardware do not stop working.

[eliyahu]

it is a hobby for all of us and people spend lots of money on hobbies, it is a matter of interest and available resources. I "overjumped" the PPC time so for me PPC is just another platform and has no special meaning. Others prefer AmigaOS or MorphOS just because of that so we will always have different views on it.

exactly. it's just a hobby, and we each have our own ways to enjoy it. well said.

-- eliyahu

[Fats]

Did I already mention I really enjoy the drama. I don't miss my television subscription for a moment. Keep the good stuff coming.

[Lionheart]

That's pretty close what actually happened in the late 90's. Amiga Inc. approached the MorphOS developers to ask them about making their OS the new AmigaOS. They talked about it, got a contract they couldn't agree on and Amiga Inc. found Hyperion instead. So if things had been a little different, we would all have used MorphOS as AmigaOS today. Makes you think, doesn't it

Amiga Inc. wanted to outsource the development and own the source. Hyperion's problem was accepting the low amount Amiga Inc. paid them ($25,000) to develop the OS.  I suspect that they'll try this again when Hyperion goes bankrupt but OS4 is obsolete and needs to be replaced the same way Apple replaced their classic version of MacOS with OSX after they bought over NeXTSTEP and brought back Steve Jobs.

MorphOS has nothing to lose and everything to gain in a deal with A-Eon.  They could continue to sell MorphOS for PowerPC systems and a version called AmigaOS with added features and software for A-Cube and A-Eon.  Even at the lowest price MorphOS sells their operating system (around $75 for one EfikaPPC system) they would make $15,000 if A-Eon even sells 200 and $30,000 for the same amount of computers sold if they were charging the same price Hyperion charges for each X1000 sold.

This is one person's opinion, but not so rich men spend 3 grand on gaming rigs to squeak an extra frame per second out of a game all the time; so the Amiga should be the hobby of only the poor, the uneducated, the huddled masses?

And for less than 3 grand they get a modern and more technologically advanced computer that can play the latest games, not a $3,000 paperweight that was obsolete almost a decade ago and  that can't even run the latest software let alone the latest games.

at least 200 people disagree. and the X1000 isn't 3000EUR. oh, and for the record, i bought my first system for less than $600. my next machine was only $400. that may be expensive in your eyes, but it wasn't in mine. please don't take your feelings, project them on everyone else, and then draw false conclusions.

-- eliyahu

O_o  Seriously?   And yet you don't see the problem here?   I'm sorry but how likely do you think someone is to develop new software for a user base of 200?

[eliyahu]

O_o  Seriously?   And yet you don't see the problem here?   I'm sorry but how likely do you think someone is to develop new software for a user base of 200?

i was just talking about X1000 users, which is what the post i was replying referred. the AOS4 user base is larger, but of course you're right. it is unlikely for most of the outside world to care about a user base of only a few thousand. which is why, i think anyway, A-EON is working on developing as many amiga software titles as possible -- to get the much larger base of people from the 68k days back on-board. just a guess, though.

-- eliyahu

[Erol]

question so what is the official news?  


is A-eon buying Hyperion?  

and as for OS4.1,  is Final release (THE FINAL END)?

I'm very confused.


btw,  Amigaworld thread is much longer..  lol

[Manu]

name five.


at least 200 people disagree. and the X1000 isn't 3000EUR. oh, and for the record, i bought my first system for less than $600. my next machine was only $400. that may be expensive in your eyes, but it wasn't in mine. please don't take your feelings, project them on everyone else, and then draw false conclusions.

-- eliyahu

Oh yes for the record it's €2,826.25 add to that some shipping and maybe 2 GB ram + keyb/mouse and you're damn close. So good if you got a system for $600 I bet it's not preforming anywhere near X1000 either. But I see a point in selling a system for 600 if it's a reasonable machine and not dog slow, but I see no reason whatsoever to promote a path where users are going to cough up money in the thousands for every new generation of boards, I bet the next generation  isn't going to be sold under 3000 either. What kind of business is that ? I thought the plan for AmigaOS was to grow not to make some special club where wealthy people thrive.

[Manu]

This is one person's opinion, but not so rich men spend 3 grand on gaming rigs to squeak an extra frame per second out of a game all the time; so the Amiga should be the hobby of only the poor, the uneducated, the huddled masses?

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It sure is my opinion and it's not going to change in the near future either.

[yssing]

AOS is not only for the rich, come on, come up with a better excuse.

[Rob]

question so what is the official news?  


is A-eon buying Hyperion?  

and as for OS4.1,  is Final release (THE FINAL END)?

I'm very confused.


btw,  Amigaworld thread is much longer..  lol

Official news is that Hyperion has been ruled bankrupt and are currently appealing against the ruling.  Anything else you read is speculation.

[eliyahu]

question so what is the official news?  

is A-eon buying Hyperion?

no.

and as for OS4.1,  is Final release (THE FINAL END)?

no.

I'm very confused.

after the determined FUD campaign by a few folks around the forums, i'm not surprised. so let my try and help: hyperion is not genuinely bankrupt, but there was an initial decree due to a variety of circumstances (you can find the details from ben hermans over on AWN). they will be demonstrating solvency to the belgian courts to overturn the initial decree in the coming weeks. AOS4 development continues. AOS 4.2 is still under active development.

-- eliyahu

[Manu]

AOS is not only for the rich, come on, come up with a better excuse.

Excuse for what? I need no excuse I'm done with it been done with it since 2005