Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini

[smerf]

Back it up big mouth! You say something like that I need to see proof. So do it, show me that CUSA have actually got a "community" that is at least 10 times the size of existing AmigaOS, AROS, and MOS user base. I'm getting real sick of people using made up figures to back up wild opinion that they put forward as fact. If your going to say something like that then let's see the numbers.

Hi,

@Tripitaka,

Don't go getting your panties in a tightwad, does it really, really matter. Yes we are all sad about what happened to Amiga, but we have to look at things with a realistic view. The sad truth is, that maybe back in 1992 we could of had the Amiga pulled out, but today with everything modern day computers can do, there is hardly any new innovation to bring out. I mean my gosh, my son just bought a 3D monitor with a couple of 3D games, the games just jump out at you, and yes the PC world is now going 3D gaming, with sound so realistic that I can hear the noisy guy trying to sneak up behind me trying to cut my throat. I turn and look and get ready to fight, and the 3D knife that swings at me makes me want to jumpback in fear, it is that realistic. So tell me exactly what you want from the new Amiga. I mean for gosh sakes I just altered my dogs head with a pancake on it in about 5 minutes, using Linux open source paint programs. The Amiga at one time was the leader in high tech computers, how long do you think it will take MorphOS, AROS, Natami, etc. to get up to where the Amiga was, then think "How long will it take to catch up to where Linux is at today. We aren't even talking about Windows with it's professional software or Macs with its professional software.

So just maybe CUSA's Linux/Amiga pack isn't really that bad, it gives you a pretty up to date Linux software package with the ability to use Amiga software.

I won't buy one basically because I am computer literate in about several systems, old and new, and my computers have the same thing CUSA is doing and you know the average Joe out there who dropped Amiga and C64 years ago just might buy it for the memories of back then, but wouldn't buy a new Amgia today because of his doubt about where it will go and who is supporting it.

smerf

smerf

[smerf]

hi,

@Iggy,

[But Mint Linux is not an Amiga operating system]

I agree it is not an Amiga OS, but Amiga OS was an off shoot of Unix, and Linux is also an off shoot of Unix.

So they are all related and are as one.

smerf

[commodorejohn]

You know what, though? If it's really true that the only worthwhile goal for the Amiga is to be on the technological bleeding edge, and it's really so impossible for it to achieve that goal and still be at all Amiga-like, then frankly it's just time to lay it to rest, not to flay the skin off the corpse and parade something else around dressed in it.

[TheBilgeRat]

CUSA hasn't "taken" anything from the "community". All they've done is used the brand to market Linux PC's and rolled out a fork of the Linux Mint distribution which is a fork of the Ubuntu distribution which is a fork of the Debian distribution. This has absolutely zero negative impact on the retro hobbyist interested in classic Amigas, Amiga emulation (both hardware and software) and NG Amiga systems.

If one is upset with what is being done with the brand identity, it doesn't make sense to blame CUSA. When a dog takes a crap in your front yard, do you blame the dog? Of course not, you blame the owner for not controlling their animal. If you're pissed about a check mark logo with the label "Amiga" carved into the case of a Linux PC, blame Amiga, Inc, they're the owner of the brand identity.

lol!  QFT

[lempkee]

It's not like it's hard to guess who it is and she hasn't been friendly to C=USA for a long period of time, if ever.  If she had posted it under her name, then it would have been a normal anti C=USA poster rant. By going as anonymous, the (Amiga.org management) give her a possible air of credibility that she wouldn't get under her normal Amiga Community nick.

listen to yourself!

ohwell, as usual, everything that comes out of your mouth is nothing more than trollbait and lame excuses.

[TheBilgeRat]

...with the relevant Amiga parties including Jerri Elsworth and Aeon...

Umm...are those the only relevant Amiga parties out there?

[jorkany]

I too have received mail from an Amiga.org member who wished to express his opinion on the Amiga Mini but remain anonymous. He has lurked here since 2001 and has been using Amigas since 1986. He is also a well-known voice actor and would be instantly recognizable if heard. He may or may not have appeared in movies such as "Seabiscuit" and "Secretariat", and today runs a popular blog on Horse Bloggers under a pseudonym which I will also not reveal. But rest assured he does exist and this is his opinion:

No sir, I didn't like it!

[runequester]

I got an email from myself that I didn't remember sending, so please consider this to be anonymous.

It said:

it's ****e

Don't tell anyone.

[asymetrix]

what do you get if CUSA paid for an OS4 port for the Amiga Mini ?

[Iggy]

hi,

@Iggy,

[But Mint Linux is not an Amiga operating system]

I agree it is not an Amiga OS, but Amiga OS was an off shoot of Unix, and Linux is also an off shoot of Unix.

So they are all related and are as one.

smerf

Well Smerf,

Microware OS9 for 68K is an RTOS distantly related to Unix and my company used to build computers based on it in the 80's and 90's.

But I wouldn't claim the systems I was building were in anyway related to Amigas (except for the similar processors).

OSX IS BSD (very much Unix) and Apple's not selling Amigas.

And even current versions of Windows (since the NT kernel) can claim a slight relationship to Unix, but Windows boxes aren't Amigas.

[Iggy]

what do you get if CUSA paid for an OS4 port for the Amiga Mini ?

Not happening. Hyperion isn't porting to X86.

[runequester]

what do you get if CUSA paid for an OS4 port for the Amiga Mini ?

twice the fail?

[Tripitaka]

Hi,

@Tripitaka,

Don't go getting your panties in a tightwad, does it really, really matter.

Yes it does. I have no problem with opinion or fact but opinion as fact is just distortion of truth and has no place in any discussion among adults. I'm British dammit and I just wont tolerate that sort of tomfoolery.

As to what I want from a new Amiga; To be honest I liked the approach that Henrycase proposed on this page:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60529&page=7

Memrisistor FPGA based hardware would be a good start. In the mean time CUSA should have licensed the Amiga name to Hyperion and worked alongside the Natami team for a genuine OS3.9 Commodore Amiga. In many ways a memresistor FPGA based Amiga would have seemed quite a natural evolution from the SAMs, X1000 and Natami as they all have FPGA or XMOS, ie. programmable chips. If only they had asked me.

And whilst I'm thinking about it, a PPC card for Natami and a Super-AGA board for SAM and X1000 would add a nice touch of unity.

This would all require co-operation between CUSA, Hyperion and the Natami team of course so I can't see it happening.

This is all only my opinion of course, everyone is entitled to one.

Come to think of it OS3.9 has a few libraries and datatypes etc.. that have been updated by other people and could do with a few other tweaks. Perhaps a fresh coat of paint would be good for a Commodore Amiga Natami release, they could call it AmigaOS Trinity or something else funky.

[XDelusion]

Tha's not an opinion friend, you speak facts.

This lump of circuitry ain't Amiga in any sence of the word.

[Yasu]

I don't know why people feel the need to be anonymous when telling these things. I'm new here so I may not know the rules or if there is a Big Brother out there or anything. If someone wanna enlighten me that is.

I think it's pretty obvious that when it comes to Amiga, Commodore failed in the past and they keep on failing in the present. It's not that it's a bad machine in itself, I just wish they didn't freaking use the name Amiga!

[Digiman]

Well Cloanto also put zero money into new Amiga hardware or OS development/application projects after pimping their inferior compilation of the FREE WinUAE emulator. C=USA are one of  many such scum as you can see.

I also owned a 1986 PAL A1000...1989 A2000 with 8mb.....1st launch £399 A1200 on release day....1994 A4000+CD32.

Here are 2 simple rules....

1. If it has no Paula chip it is no Amiga.
2. If it can't execute Defender of the Crown natively without any emulator it is not an Amiga system/Amiga OS.