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Offline Digiman

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #104 on: March 25, 2012, 11:05:49 PM »
Well Cloanto also put zero money into new Amiga hardware or OS development/application projects after pimping their inferior compilation of the FREE WinUAE emulator. C=USA are one of  many such scum as you can see.

I also owned a 1986 PAL A1000...1989 A2000 with 8mb.....1st launch £399 A1200 on release day....1994 A4000+CD32.

Here are 2 simple rules....

1. If it has no Paula chip it is no Amiga.
2. If it can't execute Defender of the Crown natively without any emulator it is not an Amiga system/Amiga OS.
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #105 on: March 25, 2012, 11:12:12 PM »
Oy, some wannabe journalist for PC World has put a story up about this piece of flot: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/252392/amiga_computer_awakened_from_sleep_with_makeover.html
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2012, 11:17:11 PM »
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Oy, some wannabe journalist for PC World has put a story up about this piece of flot: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/252392/amiga_computer_awakened_from_sleep_with_makeover.html



I already reviewed his "review"
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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #107 on: March 25, 2012, 11:22:06 PM »
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Here are 2 simple rules....

1. If it has no Paula chip it is no Amiga.
2. If it can't execute Defender of the Crown natively without any emulator it is not an Amiga system/Amiga OS.

I guess we all have our own definition of what makes/made the Amiga great. I think it's the OS (loved 3.1 when I used it) and that's why I like AOS 4.1 since it remind me much of it. But except for nostalgic reasons I don't think you can linger on to now outdated hardware, no matter how good it was at the time. The classic Amigas will always be great and are still fun to use, but for me who wants to use a modern Amiga I think NG Amigas with AOS 4.1 will be my choice of purchase.
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #108 on: March 25, 2012, 11:55:06 PM »
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I guess we all have our own definition of what makes/made the Amiga great. I think it's the OS (loved 3.1 when I used it) and that's why I like AOS 4.1 since it remind me much of it. But except for nostalgic reasons I don't think you can linger on to now outdated hardware, no matter how good it was at the time. The classic Amigas will always be great and are still fun to use, but for me who wants to use a modern Amiga I think NG Amigas with AOS 4.1 will be my choice of purchase.

Obviously closer to my own sentiment, except I'm no longer that fixated on the name.

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             Here are 2 simple rules....

1. If it has no Paula chip it is no Amiga.
2. If it can't execute Defender of the Crown natively without any emulator it is not an Amiga system/Amiga OS.
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You don't seriously think a modern Amiga would contain a Paula chip do you? That's as unlikely as a new 68K processor.
While I admire the persistence of the Natami team and really like the replay board, neither of these projects is going to take the place of a modern computer.
An new Amiga, at least in my mind, would be better built on something similar to what's going into today's gaming consoles (with,ob viously more memory and expansion).

But then again, there we go with the opinions.

One thing I think most of us agree on, it wouldn't be a PC.
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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2012, 12:00:22 AM »
While I don't actually like or dislike CUSA (I mostly just don't care about them, it's their biz and not mine) I think there may actually be some positive effects for this broad community.
For some reason CUSA has a talent to stir up things.
The annoncement of that "mini Amiga" made it into the paper version of the biggest "newspaper" here in Germany (albeit I have concerns to actually call that load of sh*t a newspaper). "Bild" reported about that Amiga mini online as well as printed. Whoa! Don't remember when a printed paper with a circulation of2.7 million printed copies mentioned the name Amiga last time.
If some average Joe now goes to google and types in amiga and hits return at least in Germany that Joe will be lead to wikipedia first and then straight to amiga-news.de and quite some other amiga related sites where he or she can learn about MorphOS, Arcade replay, AROS or OS4 or CUSA.
Hence my guess that CUSAs marketing eventually may do some good for this broad commuinity. Probably most "joes" will not care, but who knows...

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #110 on: March 26, 2012, 12:07:58 AM »
Any thread with the word 'woman' gets a lot of attention here, but that's not why I'm writing.

Just wanted to say that regardless of which camp(s) you're in (classic, AOS, MOS, AROS) I think 98% of us can agree that CUSA is a new low for "Amiga."
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2012, 12:10:12 AM »
If you ignore them, they will go away.  Don't buy their stuff.  Quit talking about them, it's free publicity.

How many of their web hits come from here?  A marketing person would read that as interest.

This circle jerk was getting old a long time ago and now it just makes the Amiga community look pathetic.
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #112 on: March 26, 2012, 12:12:53 AM »
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1. If it has no Paula chip it is no Amiga.


Never understand why you/others place so much significance on the Paula chip? It was just one of many components that made up the machine, yet some people seem to consider it THE defining feature of the platform. I don't think Paula was the amiga's most famous or 'killer' feature by a long shot.  The chip was outdated and CBM were slated for not replacing it when AGA was released.
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2012, 12:29:10 AM »
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If you ignore them, they will go away.  Don't buy their stuff.  Quit talking about them, it's free publicity.

How many of their web hits come from here?  A marketing person would read that as interest.
If talking about it here leads unwary newcomers to A.org, where we can have an open brawl about it, instead of to CUSA's own corner of the Internet where anybody who looks at Barry funny is banned, then it's worth it for that if nothing else. As much as marketing folks like to believe otherwise, there is such a thing as bad publicity.
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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2012, 01:33:14 AM »
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Never understand why you/others place so much significance on the Paula chip? It was just one of many components that made up the machine, yet some people seem to consider it THE defining feature of the platform. I don't think Paula was the amiga's most famous or 'killer' feature by a long shot.  The chip was outdated and CBM were slated for not replacing it when AGA was released.

Amiga fanatics always place too much emphasis on the chipset.
Personally, I was always more impressed by the Motorola 68K processor.
By the time the '040 and '060 processors were introduced the low bandwidth of the chipset (better suited to the relatively slow 68000 processors in the 1000 and 500) was, in some ways a hindrance.

And, sorry, but lets be honest, the long overdue AGA graphics enhancement was not that big of an improvement (a bit slow and cumbersome).

The Amiga, with its fixed function chipset is old technology.
Today's hardware has more flexible programmable structures.
A good example of this would be modern GPUs which have come to resemble massive programmable parallel processing units.

Were you to design a modern Amiga, it wouldn't have much direct relationship to it predecessors as you'd want to take advantage of the massive improvements that have occurred in electronics in the intervening decades.

So, definitely NO, a Paula is NOT required (and can be easily emulated via software if desired).
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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #115 on: March 26, 2012, 02:23:39 AM »
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lol!  QFT


Care to explain yourself? I have no idea what you're trying to convey here.
 

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #116 on: March 26, 2012, 03:55:13 AM »
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Care to explain yourself? I have no idea what you're trying to convey here.


lol = "Your comment was witty, well thought, and succinct.  I found it droll."

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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #117 on: March 26, 2012, 04:46:19 AM »
It's been awhile since I visited CUSA website and I wasn't aware of the Amiga Mini PC clone.
Anyway...If you want the case, I found the exact model at this website http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_0984.html no engraving on this one.

As far as the comment in the first post, I don't think CUSA is in business to please hardcore C=/Amiga users. They're for the masses and masses remember C64.
I will probably not buy anything from them and not because I don't want it but because I can't afford it, same with X1000.
Only Apple is "allowed" to charge $2k for a PC, those minions will pay anything.

If someone ports Firefox with flash/Youtube and OpenOffice to AROS, I may switch permanently as my main surfing PC so I can avoid those nasty PC viruses.
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Re: Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini
« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2012, 04:54:50 AM »
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As far as the comment in the first post, I don't think CUSA is in business to please hardcore C=/Amiga users. They're for the masses and masses remember C64.
That's what they've said, yet they keep coming back to try to cozy up to the community when nobody in the real world wants their products...
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« Reply #119 from previous page: March 26, 2012, 04:55:45 AM »
It's a toss up between Asha Develder and Kiki Stockhammer.
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