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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #179 from previous page: January 11, 2011, 10:07:04 PM »
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So ok, we all roll over and die then.




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BTW it wouldn't be that hard doing better than NVidia and Ati lately considering how their overpriced card consumed more power than my space heater and they are so buggy as to necessitate weekly drivers updates.




Do you have any concept of just how powerful and capable a modern GPGPU is? How complex they have become? How many billions are involved in their development? How much middleware is included in those drivers?

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It would be easier today. The tools needed to design them are more powerful today than they were in 1985, and engineer are better trained today in that field. The manufacture plants are also better and more efficient.


Right, all you need now is a few hundred billion to get your idea off the ground, as well as enough capital to maintain that pace for some time to come. Because until you do, all I'm seeing from you is

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2011, 10:08:11 PM »
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The PowerXCell 8i has been available from IBM for a couple of years.


Who is actually using it as a desktop?
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2011, 10:08:58 PM »
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Actually Leander,
I agree with you on most of this, but I'll nit pick one point. Standardized dosages (in medecine) aren't the greatest idea. Why would you give the same dose of medecine to an anorexic 100 pound woman that you would to a 250 lb football player?


With respect, it doesn't work like that, and there are standards to cover differences in weight too. All part of NICE.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2011, 10:12:20 PM »
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Also how fun will it be when someone comes to your house and mocks you when they see a Commodore 64 under the TV and you suddenly show them it running Modern day software and playing blu ray movies

And their retort will be:
http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/c64/

Note the "Posted on April 28, 2003" date  :)

Sure, the 933mhz CPU in that C-64 Mini ITX build is dated by todays standards, but the concept of throwing PC hardware in an old retro case is far from new, and certainly doesn't make it anything other than a PC in a retro case running emulation.

I hope C-USA brings solid offerings that people are interested in buying, but the things they are doing are far from inventive.
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2011, 10:12:58 PM »
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Who is actually using it as a desktop?


As far as I can see they're used as coprocessors only for a variety of very specialised tasks as well as blade systems.

But no one is using it as the basis for a desktop processor again, afaik.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2011, 10:13:21 PM »
OMG, the herpaderp sharks have invaded the thread.

Everybody, lollerskate to your nearest exit!
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2011, 10:23:11 PM »
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With respect, it doesn't work like that, and there are standards to cover differences in weight too. All part of NICE.

With all respect to you man, it DOES work just like that. And it illustrates how your Vet might be a better physician than your family doctor. All medicine dosages, if they were properly given, would be calculated on a per lb body weight basis.
As I've said, human beings are not standardized, but many physicians only give weight variance minor consideration.
Having taken both physiology and anatomy, I'd feel more comfortable with many Vets (as opposed to the average doctor).
And having grown up with a significant part of my family employed in the medical profession, I worry when I see too many people blindly following their doctors suggestions.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2011, 10:24:51 PM »
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2011, 10:26:20 PM »
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Who is actually using it as a desktop?


PowerXCell 8i? No one is using it as the line has been discontinued. IBM has not completely written off the Cell, but the only processor currently in production is a die shrunk version of the original Cell BE.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2011, 10:30:48 PM »
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God, with attitude and views like that we would have never made it out in space.



The Canadian's have a space program? When did that occur?
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2011, 10:38:42 PM »
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The Canadian's have a space program? When did that occur?

They actually do have. And before being destroyed with the cancellation of the Avro Arrow project, Canada had one of the strongest aeronautical industries around.
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #190 on: January 11, 2011, 10:43:18 PM »
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With all respect to you man, it DOES work just like that.


You might want to tell NICE and the hpa that they should stop ignoring your claims. And that was just one example of a specific set of drugs.


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if they were properly given, would be calculated on a per lb body weight basis.


They are.

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Having taken both physiology and anatomy, I'd feel more comfortable with many Vets (as opposed to the average doctor).


If standards are as low as you imply, I don't blame you.

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And having grown up with a significant part of my family employed in the medical profession, I worry when I see too many people blindly following their doctors suggestions.


There are NICE guidelines specifically spell out dosage ranges for given patients weights on a per drug basis. They're there if you look for them. Apparently just another way our evil socialist death panel system beats the US one...
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #191 on: January 11, 2011, 10:44:14 PM »
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They actually do have. And before being destroyed with the cancellation of the Avro Arrow project, Canada had one of the strongest aeronautical industries around.



Well then the Canuck must understand how it feels to see other nations that haven't previously lead this race take the led.
Its not pleasant thinking of Chinese lunar colonies when we have no agreement about the militarization of space with the Chinese.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #192 on: January 11, 2011, 10:44:54 PM »
Canada? Whats that? Is that the company that makes that great ginger ale?
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Re: What the F***!
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2011, 10:53:28 PM »
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Well then the Canuck must understand how it feels to see other nations that haven't previously lead this race take the led.
Its not pleasant thinking of Chinese lunar colonies when we have no agreement about the militarization of space with the Chinese.

Well, Canada's aeronautical industry was destroyed in great part by it's southern friend. Many of the very talented canadian engineers went on to work in the USA and some of them gave a good effort on the Apollo project.

As to Avro Arrow CF-105, it was a plane to pioneer fly-by-wire and it's engines were matched in power only by F-22s engines some 30 years later. All made in Canada :) ... Then destroyed because of the political pressure from south of the border