What the F***!

[klx300r]

Your average user today browses internet, plays flash/Java games, soon will also run in-browser 3D games... watches youtube videos... none of that is possible on any amiga(like) system...

WoW..can't you do a wee bit of reading before you post ignorant comments like this

[the_leander]

using leeches as a remedy for all diseases...

Actually it is precisely because of standards that medicine moved on. Standardised testing for the effectiveness of treatments using scientific methodology, standardisation of remedies in tablet forms so as to provide a consistent dosage, standardised training for medical practitioners.

People improve on those standards obviously, but without them, well you can always visit a naturapathic or homoeopathic "doctor" and see how well that works for anything remotely serious.

[minator]

And contrary to your beliefs it was even harder to do in 1985 because there was more competition. Commodore had to fight Apple, Atari, IBM, HP etc etc, each one trying to impose their architecture over the other on a limited marketplace (the personal computer market was smaller at that time).

For someone in the know you should learn a bit more about the history of the personal computer before making such remark.

I think you have a rather odd view of computer history.

Back then computers were much more limited so it was possible to do something revolutionary with a relatively small numbers of people and relatively small amount of money.  Doing the same today - if it could even be done - would cost Billions (not millions) and require an army of highly qualified people.

As for competition being less, you are kidding? right?

You'll be going up against a massive installed base of pretty much one one highly entrenched system. It's much, much easier to go up against multiple systems in an immature market.

You're basically talking about developing a chipset significantly better than AMD/ATI or Nvidia could develop and producing an OS that would then easily sweep aside Windows - as well as the rest of the PC industry.

You really think that today would be easier than doing it in 1985?
To put it into perspective, the leading PC architecture in 1984 was the Commodore 64.

[klx300r]

.....CUSA are planning a tablet(maybe even a smartphone, although that may be too much from current perspective), but it will not be released that soon.

really a tablet??? so what sticker errr innovation will CUSA be bringing to the tablet market with their 30 million investment money

[commodorejohn]

I think its the desire for better "genetic  diversity" so to speak.  Amiga was the "whole tamale", from hardware to  software to end user.  These CUSA machines are just the wrapper.

Yes. Look, I like x86 + Windows just fine for daily use, but I  cannot fathom why everybody regards x86 PC hardware as some sort of  "gold standard" that every OS project must be based around. Yes, it's  cheap and omnipresent - it's also boring as hell and bletcherous at  anything below the API level. I'd be more intrigued by a freakin'  Z80 project than by another x86 PC OS.

One could say CUSA are inbred.

One could, but sadly it's true of the computer industry in general these days. There used to be dozens of home-computing platforms based on half a dozen different CPU architectures - now it's down to "x86 PC" or "x86 PC with a less awful BIOS and an Apple logo for 1.5x the money."

really a tablet??? so what sticker errr innovation  will CUSA be bringing to the tablet market with their 30 million  investment money

Oh, just you wait! They'll come up with a genius new design that totally won't be a cheap Atom board plus a touchscreen kit from NewEgg, and a whole brand new re-skinning of a standard Linux distro!

[WolfToTheMoon]

WoW..can't you do a wee bit of reading before you post ignorant comments like this

Which part was wrong? Any amiga-related OS has Java or Flash? Unity 3d?

[TheBilgeRat]

Your average user today browses internet, plays flash/Java games, soon will also run in-browser 3D games(I'm eagerly awaiting Star Trek: Infinite Space :afro:), watches youtube videos... none of that is possible on any amiga(like) system.

But sure, if you're are a retro-user... I agree Natami will tick all the right boxes

Or any "modern" system today.  This is the cloud-type world, where your tablet of choice logs in and accesses your content.  The OS becomes "meaningless" to the end user- the 3D tv you bought is the monitor, some set top box is the gateway, and your tablet the controls.  When you go somewhere, the tablet comes along and checks in on the 4g network.  But for all of us old curmudgeons who'll have to maintain the Emerald Curtain, how much power do we need to just DO WORK?

[Tuxon86]

That's not the whole deal... Amiga made it available to a lot bigger audience for a lot less money. 14 000 $ in the 80s... you could probably buy a few cars for that then

The Amiga 1000 sold for $1,600.00 in 1985, not exactly short change. Why do you think the C64 sold up until the 1990.

The A500 was the first affordable Amiga for the masses.

BTW about the cell based computer, you would not be the first since Toshiba & IBM already use it in their system, and so does Sony. You wouldn't be starting from scratch. There is even already a linux distrib for the cell if you still want to go that way. The fun would be to include a good parallel processing lib with it and watch the interest of the hacking community try to exploit the vast resources of the system. That would be a revolution. Not just bringing back a beige colored keyboard case.

[Tuxon86]

Your average user today browses internet, plays flash/Java games, soon will also run in-browser 3D games(I'm eagerly awaiting Star Trek: Infinite Space :afro:), watches youtube videos... none of that is possible on any amiga(like) system.

But sure, if you're are a retro-user... I agree Natami will tick all the right boxes

And soon, most of it will be available directly on my TV, no need for a computer...

[WolfToTheMoon]

The Amiga 1000 sold for $1,600.00 in 1985, not exactly short change. Why do you think the C64 sold up until the 1990.

The A500 was the first affordable Amiga for the masses.

BTW about the cell based computer, you would not be the first since Toshiba & IBM already use it in their system, and so does Sony. You wouldn't be starting from scratch. There is even already a linux distrib for the cell if you still want to go that way. The fun would be to include a good parallel processing lib with it and watch the interest of the hacking community try to exploit the vast resources of the system. That would be a revolution. Not just bringing back a beige colored keyboard case.

Cell processors found in some consoles are not available on the free market. The end.

[Terminills]

Which part was wrong? Any amiga-related OS has Java or Flash? Unity 3d?

Well to be fair Morphos can do flash in the browser pretty well. =]

[Tuxon86]

the PC market is actually very stable and PC gaming is on the rise. So no worries there...

CUSA are planning a tablet(maybe even a smartphone, although that may be too much from current perspective), but it will not be released that soon.

PC market is stagnant, and so is PC gaming. Except for FPS and WoW what do you play that can't be played on a console or even a phone?

You seem to think that the young teen posting on Digg are the majority of PC buying market. Things have changed. You are 10 years too late in the PC game. Even game review show like Reviews on the Run spend more time these days talking about iPhone/iPad games than PC games. Also the Wii, Sony Move and the new XBox system are bringing new customer who aren't interested in sitting in front of a PC in a dark basement all days exploding heads or melting faces.

[WolfToTheMoon]

Well to be fair Morphos can do flash in the browser pretty well. =]

 

I stand corrected.

[Tuxon86]

Actually it is precisely because of standards that medicine moved on. Standardised testing for the effectiveness of treatments using scientific methodology, standardisation of remedies in tablet forms so as to provide a consistent dosage, standardised training for medical practitioners.

People improve on those standards obviously, but without them, well you can always visit a naturapathic or homoeopathic "doctor" and see how well that works for anything remotely serious.

Are you really trying to twist the meaning of what I have said?

You bloody well know that is nobody as the courage to go against the flow then nothing changes. It has nothing to do about the standard size of a pill or either you shove a suppository up yours ...

Improving on standard is like adding a new floor on an already shaky foundation. Someone has to decide to bring it down and start anew sometime.

[the_leander]

Cell processors found in some consoles are not available on the free market. The end.

There are no words...

Just cards

And they are available for purchase, massively expensive, but still available and have been for quite a while.

[klx300r]

Well to be fair Morphos can do flash in the browser pretty well. =]

don't bother it's blatantly obvious AI & CUSA don't care enough about the community to know what's going on now or what's just around the corner