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Amiga.inc - How about it?
« on: January 25, 2003, 04:30:12 PM »
While it may come as no shock that i favour OS4 and there future plans over other choices, i for one think That Amiga.inc could do alot more for the current platform. Here we have Hyperion being almost the complete driving force when it comes to the OS and new games software for our Amiga,  as it stands for me they should clearly be holding the name Amiga.inc
 I have good faith that Hyperion will do a great job on OS4, that part i'm not worried about, its the lack of new titles that may not appear for it.  Amiga.inc in the meantime... instead of you concentrating 99% full on with this DE thingy could instead try to get the ball  moving on new software for the here and now   - OS4, be it ports or brand new titles or updates to current software that made the Amiga so special. Rally round old Amiga software developers and get them  interested in OS4, DE/OS5 maybe your main goal but you have to also cater for the here and now, you talk they may listen, prolly more so than us users trying to push for new development.

DE/OS5 could very well be the next big thing in the computing industry...whos knows. but what i do know is that A.inc need to shift a fraction in there current stance in the amiga market, never mind the chicken and egg crap of which comes first, thats abvious, Software sells hardware and its a big gamble to put money into the amiga market as it is but lets not do things by half, People aint gonna come back to the Amiga Market because we just have a new OS and new hardware, they will want to know what new killer titles does it have and will i be able to do this like i can on a PC, - what ya mean you don't have a capable browser?  :-x

While i may not look up upon Bill Bucks companys visions i will give them credit in how active they our for there current s/w and h/w to come, they our pushing and will prolly get alot of support, this we have seen already.
OS5 is what, best part of 2 years away?   in the meantime with the right drive and some proper funding for the here and now, come your main objective time  you could have quite a userbase to build upon and OS5/DE may not be such a risk afterall.


OS4 Target audience: current user base and possibly the millions who have left the scene over the years. - This could be accomplished as said above, even with getting 20% of the old users back. Thats quite a user base to build upon.
OS5/DE: Everyone and his dog :-)

While i may be reaching for the stars in some peoples eyes, they our just my thoughts so no need to turn this thread into a flame-fest please...

way back to my corner now...cheers :pint:
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2003, 05:25:53 PM »
I agree...

Hyperion is not the problem here.
They are super dudes.
(need to make a full fledged holywood film on these guys)

Amiga Inc. worries me badly.

Can't say much about them though.
Barely remember thier names.

It's good that they got deals here and there, but it's horrible that they are mute.
I hope that they are doing all that Bill Buck is doing inside of thier silence.

If not, we are all in a heap of trouble.


BTW...
After hopefully one day I get my AmigaOne with OS4, I'm gonna buy every freakin' game that Hyperion makes.

It might take a while, but it will be my goal.
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2003, 05:37:08 PM »
I agree completely....but i actually love Amiga Inc

Because it released (after 10!! years) an AMIGA and the new OS.....AmigaDE

What about....escom, Gateway 2000 ecc. ecc.?

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2003, 05:38:23 PM »
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I agree completely....but i actually love Amiga Inc


I also agree with this too.
I guess Amiga Inc. is kinda like a woman.

Can't live with her, can't live without her.
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2003, 05:42:13 PM »
I have to agree with both of you.

I have bought FreeSpace & Q2 for my 68k amiga

Both rock & i will be buying all their PPC games thusfar when i get Aone/Aos4

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2003, 06:02:37 PM »
I just HOPE that Amiga Inc actually see/read this thread and take note of all this and not be a Commodore/Escom/Gateway and ignore all of our reasonable wishes.
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2003, 06:25:49 PM »
@samo79

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Because it released (after 10!! years) an AMIGA and the new OS.....AmigaDE


Let's take that with a little pinch of salt. :-)

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2003, 06:40:45 PM »
The problem is that Amiga inc. probably doesn´t have any money. No money means developing, so they let Hyperion do the job. Hyperion earns the cash that OS4 sales bring, and Amiga Inc. probably gets a tiny amount. Then Amiga Inc. lets somebody do OS5, A2 and so on... We´ll get the OS, we´ll get the hardware, but not from Amiga Inc....
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2003, 06:40:48 PM »
Commodore made mistakes, sure, but they weren't *that* bad.  Escom had good ideas, but bit off more than they could chew.  Gateway were doing some good things, but were chased off of it by M$.

Hyperion is in the drivers seat of AmigaOS4.  Hyperion has a pretty good track record, so we'll have to wait and see what they do with the OS.  

To be honest, since OS4 isn't on the shelves, everything about OS4 is sort of speculative at this point.  OS5 is nothing but a pipe-dream, and MorphOS is squarely hampered by the lack of Pegasos boards.  

I would like to see both be successful.  However, if one of the two are successful (not throwing in a choice for either side, btw)--the community still wins.

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2003, 06:43:52 PM »
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Let's take that with a little pinch of salt. :-)

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Better take a truckload off salt  :-P
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2003, 07:44:17 PM »
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The problem is that Amiga inc. probably doesn´t have any money

Well it's been said alot of times but do we have proof on that?  apart from looking as if they have been doing nothing lately, plenty of positive things may be going on behind the scenes which sadly i'm doubting is anything to do directly with OS4. So be it in the meantime if its the way to raise capital.

Just because they dont like saying how much they spend on things eg: Events  does not mean there in deep troubled waters....fingers crossed
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2003, 10:26:04 PM »
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The problem is that Amiga inc. probably doesn´t have any money

Well it's been said alot of times but do we have proof on that?  apart from looking as if they have been doing nothing lately, plenty of positive things may be going on behind the scenes which sadly i'm doubting is anything to do directly with OS4. So be it in the meantime if its the way to raise capital.

Just because they dont like saying how much they spend on things eg: Events  does not mean there in deep troubled waters....fingers crossed


Well, if you've got $50000 (that's $50 from 1000 people) and you can't manage to print a t-shirt, then it should not be that hard to figure out how much they need money.

I always hear people talking about Amiga Inc. But what is AmigaInc anyway? Fleecy moss? Never heard of until they acquired the name. Bill McEwen? Same thing.

I keep wondering if they have got anybody else working there.

I mean, if you don't have the resources to make a developer kit, then there is not much point in existing, is there?

They are not worthy to have the name of the best computer ever.

I ask you one thing. What have they produced in the 3 or so years that they have the name? NOTHING. It's that simple really. Nothing at all.
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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2003, 10:28:55 PM »
@z5

Carefull young one real carefull that road you've taken my lead you
into the dark zone, where names are just noise and smoke  :-D
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2003, 10:41:26 PM »
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@z5

Carefull young one real carefull that road you've taken my lead you
into the dark zone, where names are just noise and smoke  :-D


Maybe i should add that i do have the deepest respect for Hyperion and the other developers working on OS4 and i truly believe they will make a good product.

I see OS4 as something completely separate from Amiga Inc. Well, it IS.

Although Amiga Inc mentioned that they would split up their team into AmigaDE and desktop. I can picture it before my eyes in a big meeting: "ok, we've got 3 people working here, so how will we divide it? 1 for DE and 2 for printing the t-shirt in the desktop department?
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Re: Amiga.inc - How about it?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2003, 11:40:19 PM »
>Truck

Perhaps a large Winnebago +Truck combo is more appropriate for "Fast, Mobile and Wireless" office for "the Officeless" Amiga Inc. :-)

Istaca

The Winnebago can also function as temporary house, because apparently someone (the creditors?) had repossesed Amiga Inc's office, and (god forbid) Mr Bill McEwen house! :-)