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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2004, 12:15:01 PM »
because its an amiga club and not a pegasos club.
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2004, 12:22:37 PM »
Here in Finland we have Amiga, A1 and Pegasos users in the same club. Peg users contribute to A1 forums and A1 users contribute to Peg forums and we all contribute to Amiga forums. Everything works in perfect order.

Doesnt matter are you PC user or A1 user or Peg user, as long as it is related to Amiga :-D Why it can't work in Sweden too?

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2004, 12:24:35 PM »
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because its an amiga club and not a pegasos club.

I never heard anything that stupid.
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2004, 01:55:50 PM »
My doctor gives me little blue 15Mg Morphine pills, that I take 2 times a day.  Oh and I`m very happy with my Pegasos 2
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2004, 02:03:12 PM »
Well as the writer of the Article I can see how its a hard choice for you. I was dead against the Pegasos before I used one. I saw the light I guess you could say. Since you have an A1200 you dont need classic game compatability. The Pegasos wont do that for you. What it will do is run just about all the system friendly apps and games in speeds you never dreamed of. The system feels like an Amiga, there is no question about it. ITs much more compatable then I ever expected. The price is fantastic, and it looks great. At present there are more apps then for the A1. IBM and several other LARGE computer companies have signed on as partners. I see nothing but great things from this machine in the near future. I would get a G4 and leave the G3 alone. Trust me, you wont regret it al all. At first its a bit plain, but when you get the classic librarys installed and dress up the looks of MUI its a fantastic machine to use.
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2004, 02:11:57 PM »
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because its an amiga club and not a pegasos club.


It's just as sensible as "then how come linux only machines were allowed?"

Pointless, camouflaged hate words, again. There is no point in that.
 

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2004, 02:49:37 PM »
@ gizz72

If you want to be able to keep playing classic, hardware banging games (and other software of the same kind), then I suggest that you keep your classic machine and buy a Pegasos II G4 for the more "serious" areas of usage. I think that WinUAE feels slow and sluggish, even on my 2800+ Nforce2 setup, and I would only recommend that solution if your wallet is on a diet! ;-)

You will not regret getting a Pegasos II IMHO! Go for it! :-)
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2004, 02:55:58 PM »
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Wasn't the red pill supposed to give you the awful truth, while the blue pill would send you back into the dreamworld


I can confirm that; I took the blue pill myself and now I am back in the Amiga Dreamworld!  :-P ;-) :-D
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2004, 03:08:52 PM »
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Here in Sweden almost everyone I know use A1 or Classic Amiga. If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs.


LOL. Why is that?


Because those people have created a K-K-Kommunity for themselves; a sad bunch of die hard religious people in a cult, spending their time worshipping the boing ball and Amiga logotype and trying to keep the pure separated from the infidels. That is actually how it is. But that is not a problem really, they are actually not very many who is like that, and I think they do the world a favour by sealing themselves in a closet. It can however become annoying when it shines through like when they simply refuses to be under the same roof as Pegasos owners on Amiga shows, etc.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2004, 03:12:35 PM »
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because its an amiga club and not a pegasos club.


I never heard anything that stupid.


You see?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

"Narrow minded", "childish", "low", "insane", etc, are other words that describes this!
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2004, 03:14:41 PM »
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itix wrote:
Here in Finland we have Amiga, A1 and Pegasos users in the same club. Peg users contribute to A1 forums and A1 users contribute to Peg forums and we all contribute to Amiga forums. Everything works in perfect order.

Doesnt matter are you PC user or A1 user or Peg user, as long as it is related to Amiga :-D Why it can't work in Sweden too?



Because we have Samface!  :-P  :lol:

No, sorry Sammy! ;-)
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2004, 03:22:01 PM »
@ gizz72

BTW, you might also be interested to see a glimpse of the closest upcoming OS release from the MorphOS path, and small bits and pieces of information are beginning to find its way into the public, like from the MorphOS 1.5 presentation on the recent PUSH event:

http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&nid=764&si=1

 :-D  :-D  :-D
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2004, 04:22:56 PM »
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My advice is to follow the trend in the local community.


My advice is, make your own choice, don't let others make it!

If my father had chosen for me, I would have bought 486 instead of my A1200 back then :-D
 

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2004, 04:22:56 PM »
EDIT: Accidental double post.

I'm a Pegasos 2 user, but as I said in my previous comment, "Make your own choice"
 

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2004, 05:23:17 PM »
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Here in Sweden almost everyone I know use A1 or Classic Amiga. If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs.


LOL. Why is that?


Well. I guess a lot of people think that UAE, MorphOS, Amithlon and all that is fine, but it´s not Amiga.

At AmiGbg the conflict was quite obvious. Jens from Individual Computers responded to a question if he would consider supporting pegasos / morphos, with the frase "and a serious question please?" and then continued ranting about Bill Buck being a menace to society. A few MorphOs supporters were there, in spite of it being an amiga event, and they got quite upset. Well, the situation got ugly, and as a result many now feel that MorphOs users should stick to pegasos events from now on and leave the amiga community alone.

Perhaps the situation is extreme here, but the amiga community is quite large in Sweden, and loyal to the extreme. Many of us old users have followed amiga for two decades and would probably follow amiga inc through the gates of hell before we switched to any 3rd party solution.

It´s really sad. I sold my pegasos II even though I liked it, but everybody else has an AmigaOne here so it got kind of lonely. And I had to sell it cheap to, becauase here we are well stocked with brand new Peg 2 boards that nobody will buy. I should have saved the board and used it as a server, but I was short on cash :(

But with PUGS and stuff, the small Pegasos community might grow over time, and as development continues I'm sure they can break all ties with amiga and be a full fledged community by themselves. Then perhaps I will join! But today I´m stuck with the boing ball, and the butterfly will have to wait...    
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #44 from previous page: May 23, 2004, 06:06:16 PM »
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At AmiGbg the conflict was quite obvious. Jens from Individual Computers responded to a question if he would consider supporting pegasos / morphos, with the frase "and a serious question please?" and then continued ranting about Bill Buck being a menace to society.

I know he doesn't like BB... But I don't have personal problems with him and his Catweasel card is getting support from MorphOS software (Frodo).

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Perhaps the situation is extreme here, but the amiga community is quite large in Sweden, and loyal to the extreme. Many of us old users have followed amiga for two decades and would probably follow amiga inc through the gates of hell before we switched to any 3rd party solution.

Don't they know Amiga Inc. is no longer in the scene? But you are right for extreme... (Samface, trgse's anti-MOS code and your "if you have a peg user you are not welcome" statement).

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It´s really sad. I sold my pegasos II even though I liked it, but everybody else has an AmigaOne here so it got kind of lonely. And I had to sell it cheap to, becauase here we are well stocked with brand new Peg 2 boards that nobody will buy. I should have saved the board and used it as a server, but I was short on cash :(

You could use next generation Amiga when everyone else was stuck with their Linux boxes so your investment wasn't bad at all. If you think A1 suits your needs then why not. It is your money nevertheless. At least you could rejoin your user club now if it was important for you.

But I can't still understand why ban WinUAE, Amithlon or Pegasos users from the club. It is like lonely dark fortress in the middle of nothing.
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