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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2004, 11:00:02 AM »
Looking at what you want to do, I'd suggest going for a PC and keeping the 1200. This'll allow you to do the newer stuff you're looking to do, and play the classics on the 1200. (Maybe it's just me, but at this point I'm wondering if I'm ever going to find WinUAE smooth enough to play games on.
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2004, 12:51:29 PM »
Keep your A1200 for games and other such stuff that needs the real hardware and use WinUAE on the pc for the wellbehaved programs since you want to use windows programs too.
And try AROS on that pc! www.aros.org  :-)
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2004, 12:57:03 PM »
So I should 'Re-insert myself into the Matrix' and take the 'blue pill'. :lol:

So it 'taste like Chicken'  'but it's not.'

hmmm. 'what a mind chow!'

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well, there are 'Comstruct'(aros). :-D

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2004, 01:29:23 PM »
Hoya!

Wait for OS4 to be released if you want to compare it with MOS...

There is NO point in comparing AONE/Linux Vs Peg/MOS. You want to use AMIGAOS, not Linux, don't you?

As for emulating an Amiga with a peecee... Well, it is faster, yes, but then it is NOT the Real Thing, is it?

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2004, 03:05:30 PM »
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As for emulating an Amiga with a peecee... Well, it is faster, yes, but then it is NOT the Real Thing, is it?
it's real enough. I do it all the time. I've made various things in the last year on my emulated amiga. I don't regret having it at all!!!

and as it's on a laptop i have an amiga on the go, which was the entire point. at least for me.

as AROS matures and WinUAE and Amiga Forever continue to improve, it can only get better.
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2004, 03:25:26 PM »
> So can I still do office work(VB stuffs, office Xp, DB2
> server) under MOS?

If you need to run PC software.  Then you can do most (non-networking) stuff with the aid of BOCHS.  But it'll harken you back to the days of 486's (not sound and networking though).  If you need to run DOS software then DOSBox might be able to help you and it's slightly faster (maybe by the virtue of not having all of windows bogging you down.)

If you need to run MS Office, then you might be able to get away with PegXMac + MacOSX + Mac version of office (and other software that is available).

That said, I pretty much don't bother with most of that when I'm at home. :P  I use my Peg+MOS as my main system but I generally only use it for general web browsing, e-mail.  I use VIM to edit html and write Hollywood scripts.  I do graphic work/image processing with FxPaint, ImageFx, Cinema4D and Drawstudio 2.  When I need to write a nice document, I generally just go into Pagestream and save it out as a PDF for distribution.

I occasionally hop onto my low-spec (Pentium 500 Celeron) laptop for things that are only available on the PC...  But that's generally not too often.

Personally I would be overjoyed if there was a JAVA virtual machine but I'm not counting on it.  :-(

If you are strictly looking to play games, then in most cases you'll be stuck using UAE for MOS (unless they are later games that are system friendly).  The only edge MOS gives you over PC UAE is it's compatibility with Amiga PPC software.  And with PearPC, it might no longer be that much of an advantage in the future. :P

The safe solution for you, would be to go for a PC + UAE solution especially if you're just looking at using your current software and not looking at another OS upgrade.  I would recommend having a catweasel mk III as well.  (It greatly simplified things for me with my Pegasos. :P)

Sadly, there are better solutions to run Amiga software on PC's, then PC software on Amiga-based solutions.
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2004, 03:51:53 PM »
As an amigaone owner who still has no os4, I would say get a pegasos 2 as then you will be able to use it because it comes with morphos, its cheaper as well its what i now wish i had done .
remember you could be waiting another 6 months or more for os4 one time we were told it would be available for last christmas.and even then its only a beta. :-o
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2004, 12:48:55 AM »
Greetings to all,

 Your responses are important to me. Thank you all. In due time, I'll be able to find the right one. It's quite a choice. With this community, your being one is the most important of all despite some differences. I hope that pety issues will be resolved with new solutions and alternatives on the works. In the comming days, the best practical solution will hit me. I'll have an idea of my new system. Thanks again for the support and shared experiences. I'll probably post my progress again soon. Again thanks to the Amiga Community. In any ways, Amiga still rules and rocks my world. Who knows, 5 or 50  years from now I'm still be using the Amiga(on a 'Nebukadnezar':-P ) no matter what happens to 'ZION':-P. Only time can tell. Thanks again.

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2004, 02:21:57 AM »
Take the Black Pill!  :-)
 

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2004, 03:04:26 AM »
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Take the Black Pill!  


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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2004, 03:20:25 AM »
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Personally I would be overjoyed if there was a JAVA virtual machine but I'm not counting on it.


So Jamiga is not enough to fit in a virtual machine role? Really?  :-(

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2004, 11:08:18 AM »
My advice is to follow the trend in the local community. Here in Sweden almost everyone I know use A1 or Classic Amiga. If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs. So for me it was a choice about joining a community with about 20 users (peg!) or about 300 (amiga).

The OS4 event here was visited by 250 people. The Pegasos event PUGS, well, about 10.

If the situation in your country is the opposite, choose Pegasos. If it´s the same as in Sweden, choose A1/Classic.

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2004, 11:57:32 AM »
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If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs.


It's luckily the opposite here. And there is no "hate games" going on between classic and Pegasos users. There are clashes between OS4 developers and MorphOS owners, that's true. To my knowledge our country have one AmigaONE so far, and even that's still abroad. We have a growing Pegasos community instead, all Pegasos users having Amiga roots, with little exception.
 

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2004, 12:04:00 PM »
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Which to choose? 'the blue pill or the red pill?' kind of analogy here. Your advice(s) is/are greatly appreciated.


Depends on your budget.

If you don't want to ditch most of the stuff a PC can offer (cheap HW, tons of games, etc.) keep or buy a PC and buy a Pegasos as well. Use AmigaForever on the PC as it will give you better compatibility and greater speed for older games, and you will have access to Windows if it's needed.

There is an other solution though.

If you are determined enough you can do Photoshop/Office/WebDesign et all with your Pegasos via MacOnLinux.

In both cases you will have an intensively developed OS - MorphOS: which will be something between the classic AmigaOS and the bleeding edge operating systems of today.

As always: try MorphOS out, and see how you like it. There is no brute force involved in winning you over :-)
 

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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2004, 12:09:27 PM »
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Here in Sweden almost everyone I know use A1 or Classic Amiga. If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs.

LOL. Why is that?
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Re: Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 23, 2004, 12:15:01 PM »
because its an amiga club and not a pegasos club.
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