[UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.

[wawrzon]

please, not another discussion if fpga is emulation or not!

[psxphill]

In circuit emulation usually involves a microcontroller rather than an FPGA.

Maybe before FPGA's were available.

Google throws up a lot of results for: in circuit emulation FPGA

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Hay1AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA62&lpg=PA62&dq=in+circuit+emulation+using+fpga&source=bl&ots=vRsodFxXzB&sig=Q0OaeukqJfoXVty2HwxGNW-Hykw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwju1rrm8NDSAhVNOMAKHXTcCtY4ChDoAQgfMAA#v=onepage&q=in%20circuit%20emulation%20using%20fpga&f=false

https://www.aldec.com/en/solutions/hardware_emulation_solutions/co-emulation

What? No. Nothing like that.

Yes, everything like that.

please, not another discussion if fpga is emulation or not!

It's not a discussion, it is emulation. It's really unhelpful that people use the "I don't like emulation, I like FPGA's, therefore FPGA's aren't emulation" logic.

[kolla]

It's not a discussion, it is emulation. It's really unhelpful that people use the "I don't like emulation, I like FPGA's, therefore FPGA's aren't emulation" logic.

So, is all use of FPGA emulation?
Does something have to exist to be emulated?
Do you consider Indivision ECS an emulator?
Do you consider C64 DTV an emulator?
Do you consider Akiko an emulator?

Where do you draw the line - when is something no longer emulation?

[Rob]

So, is all use of FPGA emulation?
Does something have to exist to be emulated?
Do you consider Indivision ECS an emulator?
Do you consider C64 DTV an emulator?
Do you consider Akiko an emulator?

Where do you draw the line - when is something no longer emulation?

A lot of Amiga expansion cards have CLPDs on them, Picasso IV, X-Surf 100 etc.  

X1000 has has a Xilinx CLPD and the X5000 and A1222 boards appear have the same Lattice FPGA, AFAIK they are not user accessible resources, like on the Sam series, and are essential to certain functions of these boards.

Lots of funky emulation going on.

[Fats]

please, not another discussion if fpga is emulation or not!

No, no, don't stop! I'll get my popcorn.

[ZXoney]

Yes, Been out of the Amiga Loop for a minute, found the Mist and Order one from Germany yesterday! Thanks!!

[ZXoney]

I like the way uae allows system setup, yes I know FPGA is not software!

[ZXoney]

Devboards need to be relicensed to be used by end users so maybe not so cheap in the end.  There are some devboards that the rest of the team are looking at for higher end models but the Cyclone 3 is not in production so the lower end models need custom design.  Besides, the A600 and A500 lack some space for extras inside.

If I supply people with the software to program a off the self board for free, I don't see a need for license or re-license. I see nothing about license in this board or cheaper 40 buck dev-boaards!?  http://www.robotshop.com/en/nexys4-ddr-artix-7-fpga-board.html?gclid=CIyjzvj3vdICFQkMaQod4UQFAA

[mikej]

If I supply people with the software to program a off the self board for free, I don't see a need for license or re-license. I see nothing about license in this board or cheaper 40 buck dev-boaards!?  http://www.robotshop.com/en/nexys4-ddr-artix-7-fpga-board.html?gclid=CIyjzvj3vdICFQkMaQod4UQFAA

The reason I designed the FPGAArcade Replay board was non of the off-the-shelf boards were suitable. They also have a short lifetime.

Despite the problems I had with supply, making the board is the easy part. The FPGA and firmware design is a big task. The idea with the Replay system is that both software and hardware components can be re-used between cores - and this is starting to pay off now.

[psxphill]

So, is all use of FPGA emulation?
Does something have to exist to be emulated?
Do you consider Indivision ECS an emulator?
Do you consider C64 DTV an emulator?
Do you consider Akiko an emulator?

Where do you draw the line - when is something no longer emulation?

You can build an emulator before you build the thing you're emulating.
Indivision ECS uses a real denise, so it's not emulation.
DTV emulates a C64.
Akiko emulates two CIAs.

Old dot matrix printers can emulate Epson and IBM dot matrix printers.
Old PC graphic cards could emulate CGA/EGA/Hercules graphics cards.
Soundcards emulate soundblaster.

There are grey areas, but emulating a CPU isn't one of them.

[kolla]

Then everything is emulation.

[psxphill]

Then everything is emulation.

Only in a world of logical fallacy and trolling.

[ZXoney]

My Hat is off to you! I wish I  had time to do these kind of things myself!!!

[ZXoney]

Yes, But Some is Hard and some is Easy(Soft).

If you program a FPGA to function as a Paula Chip yes you are emulating the Paula chip but at a Hardware level. Get over it already.... FPGA is the next best thing! Better than NOTHING!

)777(

[Paulie85]

Then everything is emulation.

Am I the only one who doesn't really care whether it is or isn't emulation?

I just look forward to considerably  upgrading the computer I got as a seven year old and seeing what it can do after 30 years.

[Crumb]

Indivision ECS uses a real denise, so it's not emulation.

You can remove denise and your indivision will replace it. I don't care how you name it: emulation or reimplementation. Who cares? I would have loved amiga MMC+crussoe and Code morphing, this is the closest