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Offline ZXoney

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #494 from previous page: March 09, 2017, 08:35:37 PM »
Trying to Keep Old Amiga Computers running is never a BONUS! I own two A1000's, A500, A3000, A1200, Pegasos 1, and a Efika. I've had PPC's in both the A3000 and A1200 in the Past, both Phase5 boards are long Dead and IMHO a big waste of my time and money! It was fun at the time, but time marched on.  People still use cr-APPLE today because they let the PPC go and got with the Times!
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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #495 on: March 09, 2017, 09:16:44 PM »
For me, the whole point of this hobby is using the old machines, I dont see the appeal in emulation.
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #496 on: March 09, 2017, 09:41:46 PM »
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everybody has their own bias. but here are practical reasons. developing a cpu accelerator first, instead of a complete system (as for example natami was, admittedly a custom construction, but there are people running minimig on altera de2 and the like), allowed to start with the basics and be able to prove the compatibility of the cpu core against the genuine chipset.

as you see, in result vampire accels are developed further and in a higher demand than other proposals.

but if you want, why not approach the team with a cooperation proposal. maybe they get interested and let you develop a support for your preferred platform.


  I have downloaded all the Amiga Miming files and just might start my own project. I don't just want a machine running 30 year old games, I have Amiga/C64 forever for that. I want a ALL In One Amiga running a UAE type BIOS with All Roms, Chip Sets, CPUs, Mem, Graphic, ect..ect FPGA programmed. Boot, Set it up, Run.. I believe the board I posted above could run as Anything from the A1000 to A4000 stock and expanded without a problem. From what I have read it's all about getting the timing down for the Chips, most of that work has already been done so I believe its just tweaking. Some of these boards are 40 bucks with VGA output audio and 512Mb of ram!
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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #497 on: March 09, 2017, 09:48:27 PM »
I fell in Love With The way the Machine Ran, not the Machine. ;)
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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #498 on: March 09, 2017, 11:25:10 PM »
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I've had PPC's in both the A3000 and A1200 in the Past, both Phase5 boards are long Dead and IMHO a big waste of my time and money!


that admitted, but ppc boards for amiga were never an integral solution, i would rather conder them a hysteric hack in reaction to no real perspective and sane solution to an end of cpu architecture amiga was dependant upon.
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #499 on: March 09, 2017, 11:32:45 PM »
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I have downloaded all the Amiga Miming files and just might start my own project.


you realy might want to consult gunnar asking if they like to provide you with their core. im not sure how they go about their sources. its obviously a closed source solution, so probably no external developer ever gets a full access to the whole. but admittedly i dont know for sure. but even if you will be provided only with a pre compiled core, you might be able to run it on your board along with the minimig chipset i guess. maybe some interfacing may need attention. otherwise you will have to use tg68 softcore, which is considerably slower, but open source.
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #500 on: March 09, 2017, 11:48:29 PM »
suffice to mention the appollo team are supporting atari, why shouldnt they support something else. that, given it doesnt cross their own standalone roadmap.
 

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[UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #501 on: March 10, 2017, 09:57:48 AM »
Devboards need to be relicensed to be used by end users so maybe not so cheap in the end.  There are some devboards that the rest of the team are looking at for higher end models but the Cyclone 3 is not in production so the lower end models need custom design.  Besides, the A600 and A500 lack some space for extras inside.
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #502 on: March 10, 2017, 11:32:38 PM »
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For me, the whole point of this hobby is using the old machines, I dont see the appeal in emulation.


If you consider using FPGA emulation, why are you even bothering with this thread?
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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #503 on: March 10, 2017, 11:34:27 PM »
Quote from: ZXoney;823139
I have downloaded all the Amiga Miming files and just might start my own project. I don't just want a machine running 30 year old games, I have Amiga/C64 forever for that. I want a ALL In One Amiga running a UAE type BIOS with All Roms, Chip Sets, CPUs, Mem, Graphic, ect..ect FPGA programmed.

UAE and Minimig has little to nothing in common, not sure why you mention UAE.
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[UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #504 on: March 11, 2017, 10:30:12 AM »
@ZXoney

You might look at the MiST version of the MiniMig core since it supports AGA chipset compatibility.  If you can get better performance than the Vampire, more power to you!  Good luck!
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #505 on: March 12, 2017, 12:06:15 AM »
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If you consider using FPGA emulation, why are you even bothering with this thread?


It is essentially https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-circuit_emulation, although traditionally ICE is slower while Vampire is faster.

Even though it's emulation, it's still cool.
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #506 on: March 12, 2017, 08:43:41 AM »
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It is essentially https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-circuit_emulation, although traditionally ICE is slower while Vampire is faster.


What? No. Nothing like that.
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

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[UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #507 on: March 12, 2017, 09:51:05 AM »
In circuit emulation usually involves a microcontroller rather than an FPGA.
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #508 on: March 12, 2017, 10:13:40 AM »
Anyone using Indivision ECS should know they are using an emulator. According to some.
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

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Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #509 on: March 12, 2017, 10:54:20 AM »
please, not another discussion if fpga is emulation or not!