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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #164 on: February 14, 2015, 11:49:47 PM »
@gizmo350,

I like those old "Z" cars much better than the looks of the new ones.  1960's, & 70's were great times for modifying & driving (racing on back streets) cars.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #165 on: February 14, 2015, 11:51:03 PM »
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Man, I wish I could get an LSD for my Fairlady! Can't find one... or pay a fortune if I could! I think an Amiga PPC card @270MHz would cost more though! :hammer: Last summer I just installed brand new 5/8" bars, front and rear from Stillen - need to give 'em a workout! :laugh1:

1970? Is the body in good shape? That would fly with a 1.8! My Fairlady weighs less than 2000 pounds - what's yours weigh?

Sorry OT again peeps!


Are either of these the diff you need?

http://shop.quaife.co.uk/differentials?manufacturer=53&model=438

Had a Quaife ATB diff in my Ford Escort since I got the gearbox rebuilt back in 2012.
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #166 on: February 14, 2015, 11:54:51 PM »
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The issue with open sourcing is this.   Hyperion own AmigaOS4 however AmigaOS4 is based on AmigaOS 3 sources.  Hyperion's license was to use modify AmigaOS 3 to create new versions of AmigaOS.   Therefore it can never be open sourced as it's base doesn't belong to Hyperion.

Is there any point at which AmigaOS4.x could separate itself from the AmigaOS3.x 68k sources and be considered it's own IP, or will it forever be tied to the previous source code it is based on?

Not being a programmer, I don't know all the rules regarding IP rights and if/how they can be transferred, but I agree that the messed up history of the Amiga IP makes it difficult, if not impossible to figure out.

In any case, I doubt that Hyperion is really bankrupt (or that the bankruptcy will not be reversed.  When things like development of AmigaOS4.x don't make any profits, the details that keep them going can be overlooked by the people in charge, because the people responsible are busy with other things that pay the bills and make them real money, like when Amiga Inc. forgot to renew their website and let it expire for a time. So maybe Ben Hermans slipped up on something, and this bankruptcy judgement happened accidentally?)  I don't think that development will cease for AmigaOS4.x, just look at how many obstacles have been overcome through the years to get us to where we are today (it can't stop until I get my free copy of AmigaOS4.2 for my X1000).  :lol:
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2015, 11:56:29 PM »
@QuikSanz
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Yea, I love my FairladyZ - that straight six is sooooooo easy to work on! Actually, the whole thing is easy to work on! :) When I swapped the engine with the auto tranny still attached, it literally took like an hour to drop it in and bolt it up with a cherry picker - by myself! I wanna go drive it right now but there's 3 feet of snow on the ground! :(
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #168 on: February 14, 2015, 11:59:48 PM »
Quote from: amigadave;784180
Is there any point at which AmigaOS4.x could separate itself from the AmigaOS3.x 68k sources and be considered it's own IP, or will it forever be tied to the previous source code it is based on?

Not being a programmer, I don't know all the rules regarding IP rights and if/how they can be transferred, but I agree that the messed up history of the Amiga IP makes it difficult, if not impossible to figure out.

In any case, I doubt that Hyperion is really bankrupt (or that the bankruptcy will not be reversed) and that development will cease for AmigaOS4.x (it can't until I get my free copy of AmigaOS4.2 for my X1000).  :lol:



The only way to do it is to hire a new development team that has never seen the source and reverse engineer it.  At this point you would be better off starting off with Aros or MorphOS.    

As for bankruptcy.   As of right now they are bankrupt and waiting to see if their appeal is approved.    What we know is they have started opposing the judgement.  That however doesn't guarantee that the judgement will be vacated.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #169 on: February 15, 2015, 12:01:19 AM »
Quote from: Rob;784179
Are either of these the diff you need?

http://shop.quaife.co.uk/differentials?manufacturer=53&model=438

Had a Quaife ATB diff in my Ford Escort since I got the gearbox rebuilt back in 2012.

@Rob
Not sure if 110mm or the 115mm but yea, the R180 would be it! I guess it would depend on the diameter of the splined input shaft... Hmmm, I'll have to figure that out. I'm pretty sure I have a set of old drive shafts to measure from. Geee, didn't know anyone was manufacturing new diffs! Pricey! Thanks for the link!

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #170 on: February 15, 2015, 12:41:47 AM »
@gizmo350,

Over this way there is a place called " Driveline Specialties " Will fit anything to anything!
 

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #171 on: February 15, 2015, 12:47:31 AM »
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Does this mean MorphOS won the war?


Did you know that "morphos" was supposed to be "Amiga os" and certain ppl on the so called "red" side screwed it all up? thats why the war exsited until now. (one of the many reasons)
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #172 on: February 15, 2015, 12:52:23 AM »
why would you guys hijack one of the most important threads in a while with talk about your  modded ricers? lolol
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #173 on: February 15, 2015, 01:00:00 AM »
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@gizmo350,

Over this way there is a place called " Driveline Specialties " Will fit anything to anything!

If I had the bucks I would just go nuts and put in an R200 LSD w/CV shafts and overcoils with disk brakes and new mounts and hubs in the rear! I just need to find a stock R200 LSD from and '83 Z. I could kick myself for not getting one on the internet (from anywhere) 20 years ago. Honestly I haven't looked for one in so long and with ebay around for so long now that I'll bet there just aren't any more.

This looks cheap though...  :lol: Would still need to get an R200.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-240Z-280Z-300Z-350Z-370Z-R200-Limited-Slip-Differential-Conversion-Kit-/251634230874

One thing I like about the Z independent rear suspension is the two U-joints in each of the half-shafts - they can just be swapped out for a different input.

Chris is this the place?
http://www.drivelineservice.net/ or do you have a link? Not finding with Google... You're in California? Any good junkyards out there that haven't been molested severely?
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #174 on: February 15, 2015, 01:02:25 AM »
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why would you guys hijack one of the most important threads in a while with talk about your  modded ricers? lolol

I was about to chime in and tell these guys to get real cars, but I like 'em, so let it slide.  :laughing:
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #175 on: February 15, 2015, 01:05:05 AM »
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why would you guys hijack one of the most important threads in a while with talk about your  modded ricers? lolol

Sorry.... for the hijack...  

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #176 on: February 15, 2015, 01:12:53 AM »
@thread

magnetic brings up a good point. let's try and stay on topic. ancient history about camp wars are off-topic. and, er, so are discussions on late-model japanese sports cars. ;)

if you guys want, you're welcome to start other threads, but let's keep this thread focused on hyperion and its current predicament, please. thanks.

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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #177 on: February 15, 2015, 01:26:46 AM »
@gizmo350,

Looks like the original place I used has gone away. Should be something in your area.

Only the truck has been modified. Header, Weber carb and electronic pointless ignition.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #178 on: February 15, 2015, 01:26:51 AM »
Quote from: magnetic;784189
why would you guys hijack one of the most important threads in a while with talk about your  modded ricers? lolol

This thread will surely turn out to be nothing but speculation and over reaction to an oversight, plus many assumptions.

Never the less, I have moved my portion of any further car talk to PM prior to your above request.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #179 from previous page: February 15, 2015, 01:28:06 AM »
@amigadave,

Yup!