The Red One X vs x1000

[takemehomegrandma]

I must respectfully disagree with you on one point Mike... I have 3 Miggies and THE BEST experience I get playing OCS/ECS games is ALWAYS on my A500 using either the real game or creating floppies from an ADF from The Games Archive.

That's simply because the A500 is the real thing!

There is no way around this fact!

[takemehomegrandma]

AROS is "still very beta"? Really?

AROS is supporting ARM/X86/X64/PPC and 68k.

I have some knowledge regarding the 68k branch. Where it is "still very beta"?

He was simply speaking from a MorphOS perspective, and from this POV it's all true. Don't let it raise your blood pressure! :p

[danbeaver]

Weren't we discussing the Red One X and the X1000?

[giZmo350]

That's simply because the A500 is the real thing!

There is no way around this fact!

"Amiga 1200/AGA = Crap" :rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl:
I'm not sure that ppcamiga1 has ever owned a REAL A1200.

[wawrzon]

"FPGA emulators are waste of time and money.

The same is also true with the Amiga 1200.

AGA games were craps."

ok he says A1200 was a waste of time and money

the same is true for his PPC. Replacing old technology with another one partly even expensive one makes no sense either.

hard to tell. plain amiga1200 is likely to be found for almost no cash. an 030 accel with some ram and the few expansions they offer may be worth an fpga device. still such a device may be not fully compatible nor tested, same as the genuine amiga may have hardware issues to start with or due to its age. none of both compares in cost to almost useless ppc expansion, thats a proven fact.

[wawrzon]

Weren't we discussing the Red One X and the X1000?

whats there to discuss? plain boring..

[giZmo350]

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                                                      Originally Posted by danbeaver                             
             Weren't we discussing the Red One X and the X1000?
                         

whats there to discuss? plain boring..

cpaek72's comments, IMO, are a bit ambiguous and is simply not up to date regarding 68K games and 68K software running on an NG machine. I think, even though we may be off topic a bit, these posts are relevant to his original question. If he jumps right in and buys an NG machine expecting to do what he eluded to in his 1st post, he may be in for a surprise. I owned a SAM460EX... I kinda know. No offense to NG owners what-so-ever!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

"Amiga 1200/AGA = Crap" :rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl:

I don't know why, but this reminds me of the "If it's not Scottish, it's crap!" guy.

Hey, wasn't there some guy around here a while ago that had an A1200 that was actually made in Scotland?

[giZmo350]

GEEEEBUZ! That made launch a luggie! HAHAHAHAHA! Loved Scottish Crap Guy back in the day! :rofl:

[danbeaver]

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                 Weren't we discussing the Red One X and the X1000?
                                 


cpaek72's comments, IMO, are a bit ambiguous and is simply not up to date regarding 68K games and 68K software running on an NG machine. I think, even though we may be off topic a bit, these posts are relevant to his original question. If he jumps right in and buys an NG machine expecting to do what he eluded to in his 1st post, he may be in for a surprise. I owned a SAM460EX... I kinda know. No offense to NG owners what-so-ever!

He might learn more from an objective discussion.

[giZmo350]

Please, by all means, lead on and give us your objective viewpoint(s) regarding his 1st post... I know you're more than qualified. Please, include all aspects of 68K games and applications and their integration/performance with OS4.1. I'm all ears!

[danbeaver]

My comments have been posted

[Yasu]

AROS is "still very beta"? Really?

AROS is supporting ARM/X86/X64/PPC and 68k.

I have some knowledge regarding the 68k branch. Where it is "still very beta"?

I can't speak about 68k, but the x86 version still crash a lot. Don't get me wrong, it's getting better and better but it's simply not there yet. Even the developers stress this since they, to their credit, don't want to give the impression that it's a finished product.

That said, all NG flavors crash. Using an NG Amiga as a main system is for fanatics and masochists like me

[OlafS3]

I can't speak about 68k, but the x86 version still crash a lot. Don't get me wrong, it's getting better and better but it's simply not there yet. Even the developers stress this since they, to their credit, don't want to give the impression that it's a finished product.

That said, all NG flavors crash. Using an NG Amiga as a main system is for fanatics and masochists like me

I will test Icaros Desktop in VMWare and see if it is so unstable like some (like you) claim because I assume that it heavily depends on where you run it.

And on 68k it does not crash at all (except you start a program that causes problems) so I have a problem with phrases like "AROS is unstable" or "X years behind". And when I then ask for more precise comments and not only bubbles I mostly (surprise surprise) get no answer. BTW the same happened when people talked about Magellan. It seems the less knowledge people have the more convinced are they :-). The last comment is not against you but general experience.

In this special case I ask for more precision, if you talk about f.e. Icaros Desktop running on X86 then name it this way. AROS is a lot of different platforms and what might be true for one platform (running on a specific hardware) is possible not true for another platform or hardware. Aeros runs on Linux Kernel (hosted) so even if something is true for Icaros it is perhaps not true for Aeros. Your beloved MorphOS has the advantage that it only runs on certain supported models, if it would be installable everywhere it would have similar problems.

But as I said I will install Icaros Desktop on VMWare and do extensive testing. If it is "crashy" like you wrote then it will also run unstable in VMWare because VMWare is nothing else than a simulated hardware, if not it is obvious that it haevily depends on configuration and hardware.

[Terminills]

He was simply speaking from a MorphOS perspective, and from this POV it's all true. Don't let it raise your blood pressure! :p

No he was speaking from his perspective.   I have all 3 and TBH I find AROS much more enjoyable then MorphOS or AOS4.



MorphOS is Amiga done eh Okay.

[utri007]

Some bull%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! here, but also good points of views.

It doesn't make sense to buy X1000 just for playing old amiga games. They are emulated and that kind of emultion doesn't require much. Even Sam 440ep can emulate A500 without a problems. So if you are not a rich man, don't buy X1000 just for old games.

If you are planning to use old pruductivity software that is a different thing. 99% of them works very well with Amiga OS4 and really fast when comparing to any 68k Amiga.

What would I suggest to you is buying a second hand Sam 440ep or ep Flex. Really nice little mobo with very high quality. With that you get NG Amiga very economy price and you can see do you like it OR not. Only extra thing is whdload key file, if you want to play whdloadized games.

If you have used Amiga OS3.5/3.9 you most likely like it.

What is bull%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@! is that playing old 68k games would require some effort. OS4.1FE installs RunInUAE when you install OS, so you can start those games just double click even if they are NODOS disk images. With Amiga OS4 you will get working emulation eviroment as it have a required kickstart files, os disks, etc licenced. Unlike other NG machines.

As a bvonus Sam 440ep is very well supported by OS, ithas a all needed drivers, like 3d etc.