Neo Geo vs A1200

[commodorejohn]

Thanks guys. I use winuae but don't enjoy it as i feel it doesn't really capture the energy of a real Amiga. I think the same would happen with the Neo Geo emulator.

Yeah, I get you there, but it would at least let you know whether you like the game selection. Of course, if you can find someone in your area with a Neo Geo, there's always that option.

Also, NeoRage is much more usable than MAME or MESS.

[spirantho]

I think to many people, an emulator is "good enough". I don't know why, but it just never has been good enough for me. Maybe it's the slight latencies between the controller and the display, or the display and the sound, or the occasional jerk of animation... I don't know. But there's no way I would ever use an emulator in place of my Neo Geo AES.  Similarly, I don't use UAE unless there's a good reason to - I always use my real Miggies where I can... and emulator just isn't the same.

The best option is to find a Neo Geo arcade machine somewhere (there are still some around if you look hard enough!) and imagine having it in your home.

Over the years I've spent much more money on my Neo Geo than I'd like my wife to know about ( before I met her ) as I used to have more of the folding stuff that I could spend. But even now, I don't regret buying those games that I did, and they weren't all cheap. I still like a good Metal Slug session with my MS 3, 4 or 5 carts, and there's nothing quite like the true original NeoGeo versions. Last Resort is an excellent shooter - another of my favourites - and games like Sengoku III are still very entertaining.

Is it just a psychological thing? Quite possibly. But the important thing is that the enjoyment I get from it is real.

Incidentally, anyone with a NeoGeo AES should get a Universe BIOS. This lets you play the games in Japanese (with red blood but Japanese text) or American (fake blood but English text), and also lets you pretend to the cartridge that your AES is an MVS (the arcade machine) - all NeoGeo carts are the same, they read your console to find out what kind of machine it is, and the Universe BIOS lets you change these, and put in pokes for infinite lives and stuff. Very cool.

[Thorham]

Buy a NeoGeo... spend life's savings trying to collect games. Impress your self with that feeling that "hey, I've got the real hardware", then realize "hey there is not OS, might as well just emulate the games". Impress a few friends here and there with your new hardware... the moment passes, life goes on, you learn to regret it.

Indeed. Applies to everyone in existence, because everyone is exactly the same

[XDelusion]

Indeed. Applies to everyone in existence, because everyone is exactly the same

Well if he's filthy rich then I'd say go for it. If not, then I'd say he may regret it some day, unless the value of this hardware only continues to go up...

...then on the other hand.

[som99]

I personally never prefer emulators over original hardware ever, but in some cases I can not justify the prices of building a good game library.

NeoGeo do sadly not offer me enough games that appeal me enough to justify me to go crazy and buy tons of games, I want all consoles in my collection but for some I only buy a few games because of prices and play the rest on emulators.

NeoGeo is great yes, but it's all about taste of games, I enjoy the occasional SCHMUP, Fighter, arcade puzzle/racer from time to time but not enough to justify the money for lots of games for it, I tend to keep the NeoGeo games to the few good RPGs and the rest I play on emulators.

But NeoGeo is one of few systems that are hard to play backups on, most common cartridge based systems have a solution like everdrive to play near all games on real hardware and the few games that do not work I buy.

Optical-based systems mostly have some solution either via modchips or custom firmwares in PC CD/DVD-writers or orther software hacks to play backups on.

So most systems out there has some kind of backup solution which is great since I can play vast amounts of games without scouting the internets for games (not to mention the storage space i save).

But sure I still buy all my favorite games for all systems to have the originals, but NeoGeo do not have high priority in my case, I rather spend the money on other systems/hardware/projects.

If you love enough games for the neogeo to justify the prices go for it, if not and you don't want to play via Emulators but another system that has backup solutions, most systems have arcade sticks for them and building your own is not hard if you know how to do it.

The TurboGrafx has tons of good "arcade" games and you can play backups on it thus saving you a lot of money, but there are plenty more systems with great game libraries, it all comes down to taste of games and the amount of money the person is willing to spend

[mikrucio]

let me get this right =>
You don't want to get a PS4 (probably an uneducated reason)
BUT
you want to get a 20 year old system like a NeoGeo which is barely more powerful
than my toaster oven.And one which I can emulate and get free games for in about 10 minutes?

wow your smart

[commodorejohn]

let me get this right =>
You don't want to get a PS4 (probably an uneducated reason)
BUT
you want to get a 20 year old system like a NeoGeo which is barely more powerful
than my toaster oven.And one which I can emulate and get free games for in about 10 minutes?

wow your smart

You're on a forum dedicated to Amigas and their users. What were you expecting to find here?

[XDelusion]

let me get this right =>
You don't want to get a PS4 (probably an uneducated reason)
BUT
you want to get a 20 year old system like a NeoGeo which is barely more powerful
than my toaster oven.And one which I can emulate and get free games for in about 10 minutes?

wow your smart

The PS4 will probably break down long before the NeoGeo does.

[Damion]

Or are you content being disappointed with scaled down versions of arcade games? Many of which hampered even more thanks to crummy inferior least_common_denominator computer conversions. Most all played on a single Atari 2600 style, single button controller.

Unfortunately, this about sums it up!

[gertsy]

let me get this right =>
You don't want to get a PS4 (probably an uneducated reason)
BUT
you want to get a 20 year old system like a NeoGeo which is barely more powerful
than my toaster oven.And one which I can emulate and get free games for in about 10 minutes?

wow your smart

It's "you're" smart, actually.

[spirantho]

If you want to play downloaded games, buy a Neo Geo CD! Not the same, but close as long as you don't mind loading times, and the original games are much cheaper too.

[Khephren]

neo geo is a great arcade perfect machine if you like shooters and fighters, other game styles are a bit thin on the ground, not the hardware's fault,it's more than able to handle many game types, it just happens to cater to arcade style games.

I sold mine after a while, as I'm more it to rpg, 3D and strategy games.

I found the PC-engine more varied, with software easier to get hold of, and more choice of hardware.

I think the A1200 could of coped with quite a few neo-geo style games, as fightin' spirit proved. But i guess AGA never got as much effort as OCS/ECS. Lack of disk storage space was another issue as well I suppose.

[rvo_nl]

for some reason I think many of you missed my previous post. like I said, the neo geo cannot be compared to the amiga 1200. its a superior machine. the neo geo cd sounds like a good idea but doesnt have much benefit over the original console + multicartridge. as for people stating its useless to invest in such old machine, I have no idea what you are doing on amiga.org. I find much enjoyment investing in and playing with old game consoles and computers and judging by the interest online, Im certainly not alone.

[XDelusion]

as for people stating its useless to invest in such old machine, I have no idea what you are doing on amiga.org. I find much enjoyment investing in and playing with old game consoles and computers and judging by the interest online, Im certainly not alone.

The difference to me is that the Amiga can do a LOT more than play games. It is a work station for me, I am willing to put money into my work station, its practical on my end, but intensting large sums of money into a game system where no game sells for under $100...

...I can not think of a logical reason for me to tap my (food/rent/future) funds for that.

[save2600]

let me get this right =>
You don't want to get a PS4 (probably an uneducated reason)
BUT
you want to get a 20 year old system like a NeoGeo which is barely more powerful
than my toaster oven.And one which I can emulate and get free games for in about 10 minutes?

wow your smart

Wowee! Free games, emulation and underpowered disposable PeeCee's repackaged and sold in wobbly black boxes - oh my!

[Thorham]

the neo geo cannot be compared to the amiga 1200. its a superior machine.

No, it's not a superior machine. Consoles like the Neo Geo are better for old school 2D games, because their hardware is optimized for that. For everything else, these consoles loose big time to machines like the A1200.

An A1200 has much more RAM, higher graphics resolutions in far more colours, a proper CPU slot, IDE interface, PCMCIA interface that's actually useful (networking), a faster CPU, and probably some things that I forgot.