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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #89 from previous page: October 10, 2013, 01:22:10 PM »
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I could buy new MacPro, but picked X1000, because its most advanced Amiga like system I can have.


Not even close.  AROS running on that new Mac Pro would be "most advanced Amiga like system" you could buy.
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #90 on: October 10, 2013, 02:53:30 PM »
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I don't really see the point of buying an NG Amiga and then running Unix on it, I know of one X1000 owner who uses Unix almost exclusively on his X1000.

Really? That's totally insane.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #91 on: October 10, 2013, 03:19:32 PM »
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Really? That's totally insane.

guys really installing Linux on any NG Miggy is just like installing an emulator on a classic...you do it to mess around and get it working and basically I do it because I can and like experimenting with stuff. I bought every one of my Amiga & Amiga like systems to use my favourite OS & trust me that's not Linux:razz:
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #92 on: October 10, 2013, 09:18:54 PM »
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Is it possible for WINE to work on AROS then?

On AROS x86 a proper port of WINE would probably work (much work however and hence not too likely to happen).

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #93 on: October 10, 2013, 11:30:13 PM »
X1000 results on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS PPC64

http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1310106-AR-AMIGAONE027
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #94 on: October 10, 2013, 11:31:38 PM »
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guys really installing Linux on any NG Miggy is just like installing an emulator on a classic...you do it to mess around and get it working and basically I do it because I can and like experimenting with stuff. I bought every one of my Amiga & Amiga like systems to use my favourite OS & trust me that's not Linux:razz:
No, you don't understand! The person I'm talking about apparently uses Unix almost exclusively. It's basically an X1000 bought to run Unix!

Emus on classics can be useful if the emulated system is light enough.
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #95 on: October 10, 2013, 11:51:07 PM »
Yep emulation can be lots of fun, I like to play old Spectrum and C64 games on my Classic when the mood takes me but I'm not into running a whole different OS (eg ShapeShifter) just so that I could play a port of Wolfenstein 3D or use some paint program.  It would be much better if someone went to the trouble of coding a native Amiga port so I could play that instead :)
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2013, 12:45:39 AM »
Wow! Lots of replies here!

I read through the thread earlier and there was a few comments about "it's not really worth it" and I would like to address that.

When you go off the track of common garden variety products then the price reflects low availability and bespoke/uniqueness of the vehicle. I recently paid £6000 for a car just 2 years younger than my original Amiga 1000. I decided to call that car Christine because nobody in my family could understand why I would buy a 1988 tail happy RWD car with a ridiculously large engine (about the size of a Ford Escort) and excessive over engineered etc. However to me it is the only car that does what it does and I'd rather be soaked in petrol and set fire to than drive some crap 'modern' euro box with no character and just well as pleasant as a motorway service station dinner.

It's the same with the x1000. I felt the need to have a machine to run OS4. It doesn't have to play 1080p video (I can live with a PC + Zoomplayer + Vistacodecpack). In fact all it has to do is pretty much just switch on and run OS4 programs. If I can one day use it to run my basic web pages I design (nothing more modern than HTML of 2001) and NOT GET VIRUSED TO DEATH ON A DAILY BASIS then it serves its purpose.

So you see, for me value is a relative thing and that's all I can say. I didn't get the original AmigaONE last decade and regret it, as the x1000s are still around new today then it means I can actually experience buying a new computer that isn't Windows or Mac. I didn't want cup holders in my car or an engine that turns off at the traffic lights or tries to steer and power the same axle on the car and I had to pay through the nose for a very very old car....but then it is unique and well it will not be as annoying as a 'modern car'. Same difference with the x1000 vs latest PC %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!box. Speaking of PCs....isn't anyone else getting pissed off that the i7 is NOT going down in price even after all these years...AMD COME BACK, WE NEED YOU TO JAM A STICK UP INTEL'S ASS TO KEEP PRICES LOW!

So that will be an extra comfy straight jacket and one x1000 for Xmas please Santa :)

PS The MOS comments, I don't have a problem with MOS at all but a MOS Mac and an x1000 are completely different machines to me and neither affects the purchase of the other, if need be I would have both. If MOS for Mac G5 is finished I will purchase a licence for that too and a G5 Mac to run it on but not before G5 distro is released.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2013, 01:19:42 AM »
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PS The MOS comments, I don't have a problem with MOS at all but a MOS Mac and an x1000 are completely different machines to me and neither affects the purchase of the other, if need be I would have both. If MOS for Mac G5 is finished I will purchase a licence for that too and a G5 Mac to run it on but not before G5 distro is released.


G5 support has been out for some time now.. afaik.

If you want to run os4 its probably the best platform for it. If only the software was worked on it could be a viable alternative platform.
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #98 on: October 11, 2013, 02:49:25 AM »
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Wow! Lots of replies here!

I read through the thread earlier and there was a few comments about "it's not really worth it" and I would like to address that.

When you go off the track of common garden variety products then the price reflects low availability and bespoke/uniqueness of the vehicle. I recently paid £6000 for a car just 2 years younger than my original Amiga 1000. I decided to call that car Christine because nobody in my family could understand why I would buy a 1988 tail happy RWD car with a ridiculously large engine (about the size of a Ford Escort) and excessive over engineered etc. However to me it is the only car that does what it does and I'd rather be soaked in petrol and set fire to than drive some crap 'modern' euro box with no character and just well as pleasant as a motorway service station dinner.

It's the same with the x1000. I felt the need to have a machine to run OS4. It doesn't have to play 1080p video (I can live with a PC + Zoomplayer + Vistacodecpack). In fact all it has to do is pretty much just switch on and run OS4 programs. If I can one day use it to run my basic web pages I design (nothing more modern than HTML of 2001) and NOT GET VIRUSED TO DEATH ON A DAILY BASIS then it serves its purpose.

So you see, for me value is a relative thing and that's all I can say. I didn't get the original AmigaONE last decade and regret it, as the x1000s are still around new today then it means I can actually experience buying a new computer that isn't Windows or Mac. I didn't want cup holders in my car or an engine that turns off at the traffic lights or tries to steer and power the same axle on the car and I had to pay through the nose for a very very old car....but then it is unique and well it will not be as annoying as a 'modern car'. Same difference with the x1000 vs latest PC %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!box. Speaking of PCs....isn't anyone else getting pissed off that the i7 is NOT going down in price even after all these years...AMD COME BACK, WE NEED YOU TO JAM A STICK UP INTEL'S ASS TO KEEP PRICES LOW!

So that will be an extra comfy straight jacket and one x1000 for Xmas please Santa :)

PS The MOS comments, I don't have a problem with MOS at all but a MOS Mac and an x1000 are completely different machines to me and neither affects the purchase of the other, if need be I would have both. If MOS for Mac G5 is finished I will purchase a licence for that too and a G5 Mac to run it on but not before G5 distro is released.

The last two releases of MorphOS have supported G5's.

The 2.7GHz Dual Processor model wipes the floor with the X1000.
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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2013, 03:37:24 AM »
And a x86 modern cpu completely wipes the floor with a G5.
Kind of irelevant though for MOS fans though seeing as MOS doesnt run on that hardware. (see any sort or parallel there?)

As for buying an X1000, the only sane reason a person would buy one is if they want one. On mass it wont retain its value in 25 years time the way the classics have, but if you're buying for an investment you're barking up the wrong tree anyway.
Buy one if you want to use it. No need to try to justify it. Not everyone will want to spend thousands on a machine whose specs are matched, and beaten by the sort of pc you'll find in the dumpster, just so they can run a particular OS, but if a person is inclined then far be it for anyone else to tell them they shouldnt.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2013, 04:04:32 AM »
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And a x86 modern cpu completely wipes the floor with a G5.
Kind of irelevant though for MOS fans though seeing as MOS doesnt run on that hardware. (see any sort or parallel there?)

As for buying an X1000, the only sane reason a person would buy one is if they want one. On mass it wont retain its value in 25 years time the way the classics have, but if you're buying for an investment you're barking up the wrong tree anyway.
Buy one if you want to use it. No need to try to justify it. Not everyone will want to spend thousands on a machine whose specs are matched, and beaten by the sort of pc you'll find in the dumpster, just so they can run a particular OS, but if a person is inclined then far be it for anyone else to tell them they shouldnt.

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2013, 04:14:14 AM »
Pardon?
What does a quad socket "server" board have to do with anything here?
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Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2013, 04:51:01 AM »
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Pardon?
What does a quad socket "server" board have to do with anything here?

Just showing for dirt cheap you can buy a server compared to a 3k x1000.
 

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« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2013, 07:45:12 AM »
Does the quad server run OS4.1?  Classic Amiga software?  Read and write Amiga disks?  Emulate multiple other computers?  Or look cool as hell with a boing ball etched front panel?

I could buy three of them for the cost of my X1000 and they wouldn't do anything like the above.  I think I'll just use my ZyXel $89 diskless server for my NAS needs. :-)
 

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Re: Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2013, 10:12:44 AM »
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Does the quad server run OS4.1?  Classic Amiga software?  Read and write Amiga disks?  Emulate multiple other computers?  Or look cool as hell with a boing ball etched front panel?

I could buy three of them for the cost of my X1000 and they wouldn't do anything like the above.  I think I'll just use my ZyXel $89 diskless server for my NAS needs. :-)


I believe it can do all of that, except OS 4.1. Early revisions of 4.0 can be run on UAE.
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