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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2014, 03:37:33 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2014, 03:49:06 PM »
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2014, 08:56:41 PM »
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Why do you believe this?    If all the children are cared for and fed, why does it matter to you?  

I can't remember the exact numbers, but Beethoven was the youngest of something like 13 children.



I agree completely.  I have nine children.  The youngest five are adopted from three different countries.  After having experienced both adoption and having biological children, I would encourage everyone to do both.  They're great experiences for different reasons.

By the way, if adoption is so great, then why is the UN and UNICEF trying to shut it down?  



I agree that education is always a good thing.  But you have to teach the right things.  And I don't think the world's population needs to be controlled at all.  However, history clearly shows that as you raise the standard of living for a society, birth rate drops significantly.  So what is the real solution to the population problem, if there is such a thing?


Wow what the fook has Beethoven being 1 of 13 got to do with the price of wet fish. Do you have any understanding of the environmental impact of each child. Especially in the developed world
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2014, 09:40:25 PM »
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Wow what the fook has Beethoven being 1 of 13 got to do with the price of wet fish. Do you have any understanding of the environmental impact of each child. Especially in the developed world
It has to do with the fact that, had his parents stopped before him (actually he was one of seven, and not the youngest - I think the confusion is with Mozart, who was the youngest of seven - but still,) world culture would be measurably poorer for it.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2014, 10:46:52 PM »
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Wow what the fook has Beethoven being 1 of 13 got to do with the price of wet fish. Do you have any understanding of the environmental impact of each child. Especially in the developed world


What environmental impact are you referring to?  Each one consumes oxygen.  Is that it?  How about water.  They all consume water.  Maybe it's that one?

You've been conditioned to believe that extra children consume "resources".  Whatever that is.  And why should we care?*  Aren't resources renewable?  The ones that are really needed by that child are renewable.  

Or are you talking about the non-renewable resources?  I think the people on the planet already can consume non-renewable resources (if there is such a thing) just fine without the help of additional children.  Even if we reduce the population by half, the remaining people could still consume an equal amount of resources.

I think the goal of the human race shouldn't be the reduction of population or the reduction of resource consumption directly.  I think the goal of the human race should be a major attitude change.  The goal needs to be that we all work together to elevate everyone.  And you can't do that when you have trillionaire bankers creating false flag attacks, civil wars, and world wars so that they can own another country.

You've been brainwashed.  Stop it.


* I have a flippant attitude about energy and resource consumption because there are many practical technologies that could replace things like fossil fuels, but are not allowed to exist because of money (greed placed over benefit to humanity).  If you want an example of what I mean by this, look into Nicola Tesla's lab burning down.  There's evidence to suggest that it was arson, ordered by JP Morgan, for financial gain.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2014, 09:32:41 AM »
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What environmental impact are you referring to?  Each one consumes oxygen.  Is that it?  How about water.  They all consume water.  Maybe it's that one?

You've been conditioned to believe that extra children consume "resources".  Whatever that is.  And why should we care?*  Aren't resources renewable?  The ones that are really needed by that child are renewable.  

Or are you talking about the non-renewable resources?  I think the people on the planet already can consume non-renewable resources (if there is such a thing) just fine without the help of additional children.  Even if we reduce the population by half, the remaining people could still consume an equal amount of resources.

I think the goal of the human race shouldn't be the reduction of population or the reduction of resource consumption directly.  I think the goal of the human race should be a major attitude change.  The goal needs to be that we all work together to elevate everyone.  And you can't do that when you have trillionaire bankers creating false flag attacks, civil wars, and world wars so that they can own another country.


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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2014, 09:36:27 AM »
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What environmental impact are you referring to?  Each one consumes oxygen.  Is that it?  How about water.  They all consume water.  Maybe it's that one?

You've been conditioned to believe that extra children consume "resources".  Whatever that is.  And why should we care?*  Aren't resources renewable?  The ones that are really needed by that child are renewable.  

Or are you talking about the non-renewable resources?  I think the people on the planet already can consume non-renewable resources (if there is such a thing) just fine without the help of additional children.  Even if we reduce the population by half, the remaining people could still consume an equal amount of resources.

I think the goal of the human race shouldn't be the reduction of population or the reduction of resource consumption directly.  I think the goal of the human race should be a major attitude change.  The goal needs to be that we all work together to elevate everyone.  And you can't do that when you have trillionaire bankers creating false flag attacks, civil wars, and world wars so that they can own another country.

You've been brainwashed.  Stop it.


* I have a flippant attitude about energy and resource consumption because there are many practical technologies that could replace things like fossil fuels, but are not allowed to exist because of money (greed placed over benefit to humanity).  If you want an example of what I mean by this, look into Nicola Tesla's lab burning down.  There's evidence to suggest that it was arson, ordered by JP Morgan, for financial gain.

Good statement. But i think you lost credability when you accused someone else of being brainwashed. Never a good debating strategy...
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2014, 09:49:20 AM »
Thank you kesa. Most of people have come to their own conclussions. Just because a view is different to you own strongly held beliefs or agree with widley held view does not Make it any less valid or mean someone has been brainwaahed
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« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2014, 10:06:28 AM »
Roundly, No, only it is whitewash.
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« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2014, 11:10:53 AM »
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Thank you kesa. Most of people have come to their own conclussions. Just because a view is different to you own strongly held beliefs or agree with widley held view does not Make it any less valid or mean someone has been brainwaahed

Wasn't it Voltaire who said "I may not agree with what you have to say but I will fight to my death for your right to say it"?
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« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2014, 11:50:17 AM »
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You've been brainwashed.  Stop it.


When I first saw this statement I thought similar to what that others have expressed. There is no such thing is "right" or "wrong". Right or wrong is simply an opinion - of an individual or of a collective group of people. As such, just because someone's opinion differs from yours doesn't mean they are right, wrong, or...brainwashed.
 

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« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2014, 11:53:33 AM »
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Good statement. But i think you lost credability when you accused someone else of being brainwashed. Never a good debating strategy...


Yet brainwashing exists today... carried out by the mainstream media and public education systems.  Maybe "propaganda believer" is a better description.

I don't need credibility.  The facts remain.
 

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« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM »
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2014, 12:04:22 PM »
I guess it depends on whether you have an optimistic, pesimistic or cynical personality. You seem to be the latter 2 while i am optimistic.

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2014, 12:56:42 PM »
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Thank you kesa. Most of people have come to their own conclussions. Just because a view is different to you own strongly held beliefs or agree with widley held view does not Make it any less valid or mean someone has been brainwaahed


Forgive me for making a reference to hitler, but it's apropos...  those people who believed "the big lie" in nazi germany... where their conclusions valid?  Or were they just wrong?