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Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« on: August 09, 2013, 05:56:38 AM »
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http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/08/08/1622238/bill-gates-promotes-vaccine-projects-swipes-at-google



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"Bill Gates is not the philanthropist he pretends to be. The  Gates Foundation has an endowment of $30 Billion making it the largest  philanthropic organization in the world.  But one third of that money is  invested in companies whose practices run counter to the foundation’s  supposed charitable goals and social mission. In Niger, the  Foundation has invested more than $400 million dollars in oil companies  including Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp, and Chevron. These firms  have been responsible for much of the pollution causing respiratory  problems and other afflictions among the local population. The  Gates Foundation also has investments in sixty-nine of the worst  polluting companies in the US and Canada, including Dow Chemical.


 It holds investments in pharmaceutical companies whose drugs cost far  beyond what most patients around the world can afford and the Foundation  often lobbies on behalf of those companies for "Intellectual Property"  protections that make obtaining low cost medicines more difficult. Other  companies in the Foundation’s portfolio have been accused of forcing  thousands of people to lose their homes, supporting child labor and  defrauding and neglecting patients in need of medical care. In the mean time, Bill Gates' net worth has gone from $50 Billion to $70 Billion over the last 3 years."
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 06:53:05 AM »
I bet Microsoft will have to take Bill back as the front figure and kick Ballmer out if they're ganna end this Win 8 -disaster.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 07:13:34 AM »
I dont think I am going to care. It is his own money, isnt it?
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 07:26:10 AM »
Gosh. And it must be true, because it says so on the internet.
Seriously..... however you cut it, Bill Gates has done a LOT of good with his money with things like Polio eradication. This article looks like a bit of a cheap shot from a Linux nerd or Jobs fan to me.

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 02:12:42 PM »
Gates has done more to advance charitable health causes in the 3rd world than most others put together.  And no that's not just what I read on the internet; I've followed this effort of his for quite a while thru print and other media as well.

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 02:39:49 PM »
Gates could give all the poor countries he helps a MS Surface tablets so they don't end up in a landfill. They have millions of them unsold in warehouses.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 02:52:41 PM »
The whole Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation story is a mixed bag.  On the one hand they've given away a pile of money, as much as some medium sized countries have given, to spread immunisation and other specific health concerns, they have their own agenda.  There are curious links with the ultimate corporate evil giant Monsanto.  The giving away of huge sums tends to lower criticism of the ability to gather such large sums in the first place.

Bill Gates' place in history is not entirely saint and not entirely sinner, but somewhere in between.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 03:07:18 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;744080
Gosh. And it must be true, because it says so on the internet.
Seriously..... however you cut it, Bill Gates has done a LOT of good with his money with things like Polio eradication. This article looks like a bit of a cheap shot from a Linux nerd or Jobs fan to me.

Let's not turn into /. here, eh?


Sure, if you have absolute trust in large multinational corporations producing such vaccines.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 03:15:47 PM »
Quote from: persia;744153
The whole Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation story is a mixed bag.  On the one hand they've given away a pile of money, as much as some medium sized countries have given, to spread immunisation and other specific health concerns, they have their own agenda.  There are curious links with the ultimate corporate evil giant Monsanto.  The giving away of huge sums tends to lower criticism of the ability to gather such large sums in the first place.

Bill Gates' place in history is not entirely saint and not entirely sinner, but somewhere in between.


Aren't charitable donations knocked off your tax bill in the US anyway?

If so he's not really giving away his own money.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 03:16:33 PM »
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Sure, if you have absolute trust in large multinational corporations producing such vaccines.


Indeed, such things are much better under state control.

I never had you down for a socialist Dammy. ;)
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 03:39:36 PM »
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Gates could give all the poor countries he helps a MS Surface tablets so they don't end up in a landfill.


Yes, but he's trying to end suffering in 3rd world countries.  :D  Inflicting Surface RT on them would not help toward that goal.
 

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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 04:14:34 PM »
Give third world countries MS Bob, Windows ME, Vista or 8. After first use they will happy to return to their primitive methods.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2013, 04:16:03 PM »
Since when slashdot posts makes sense?.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 03:37:54 PM »
Quote from: SysAdmin;744075
From Slashdot


http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/08/08/1622238/bill-gates-promotes-vaccine-projects-swipes-at-google



Quoted from link

"Bill Gates is not the philanthropist he pretends to be. The  Gates Foundation has an endowment of $30 Billion making it the largest  philanthropic organization in the world.  But one third of that money is  invested in companies whose practices run counter to the foundation’s  supposed charitable goals and social mission. In Niger, the  Foundation has invested more than $400 million dollars in oil companies  including Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp, and Chevron. These firms  have been responsible for much of the pollution causing respiratory  problems and other afflictions among the local population. The  Gates Foundation also has investments in sixty-nine of the worst  polluting companies in the US and Canada, including Dow Chemical.


 It holds investments in pharmaceutical companies whose drugs cost far  beyond what most patients around the world can afford and the Foundation  often lobbies on behalf of those companies for "Intellectual Property"  protections that make obtaining low cost medicines more difficult. Other  companies in the Foundation’s portfolio have been accused of forcing  thousands of people to lose their homes, supporting child labor and  defrauding and neglecting patients in need of medical care. In the mean time, Bill Gates' net worth has gone from $50 Billion to $70 Billion over the last 3 years."


Bill Gates is a new kind of "philanthropist" and I use the term loosely. He's a Venture Philanthropist which I would argue often becomes an oxymoron depending on the outcome of what he tries to do to make money.

Bill Gates does things like back "Education Reform" in the guise of making education better, while actually forcing the whole reform movement towards requiring the use of his technology in the form of companies he owns. So spend money on "reform", while actually requiring the purchase of your technology and make far more money off the Venture Philanthropy.

In some cases you might be able to argue the result is positive, so it's likel a retarded cousin of true philanthropy but more often than not it ends up benefiting Gates only and just making the Gates Foundation money.

So, yes - not everything on the Internet is true but there is truth to the fact that the Gates Foundation is there to make money off what it markets as philanthropy.
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Re: Bill Gates not a philanthropist?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 03:46:03 PM »
He may or may not be a Philanthropist but he is most certainly not an Altruist.
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