Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware

[Blizz1220]

Just create modified version of AROS.

I didn't even think about it that way tnx ...

Not that it would be badly needed either ...

[vox]

I feel a challenge ahead!

When you get your X1000 install a fresh Debian and run a benchmark of your choice.

I'll do the same with the G5 and compare.

It will come with Ubuntu. Current tests show that X1000 is faster then G4 in cache and memory (and in real time copy files). How worse or better then G5 is hard to determine, as it wasn`t included in current tests.
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2012-02-00011-EN.html

[nicholas]

It will come with Ubuntu. Current tests show that X1000 is faster then G4 in cache and memory (and in real time copy files). How worse or better then G5 is hard to determine, as it wasn`t included in current tests.
http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2012-02-00011-EN.html

We could run this on each machine tested to see the strength and weaknesses of each machine.

http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads

[ChaosLord]

If I bought a G4 or G5 MorphOS machine would it somehow in anyway help me to create OS4 software?

I only have classic Amigas now.

I will never ever have $3000.00 for an X1000.

[Duce]

Not hard to find older SAM 440ep boards for a couple hundred bucks.

While the low end of OS4 machines, I still find mine extremely enjoyable and capable.  Though my requirements and expectations of it are admittedly low, I still find it fun for what I use it for - running a BBS, a bit of web browsing, and coding.

I still run mine in barebones fashion (no add on graphics card) and find it very snappy and fun to use.  The addition of a couple SSD's about a year ago give me 10 second or so boot times, even on admittedly slow hardware by todays standards.

[_ThEcRoW]

Why people keep reccomending sam boards?. These boards arent entry level by the price, and the power it offers is too low.

[dammy]

Why people keep reccomending sam boards?. These boards arent entry level by the price, and the power it offers is too low.

What else are they going to talk about?  If they start comparing it to AROS hardware or MOS hardware, reality starts to bite in on why AOS4 is boxed in and no where to turn to.  Gangrene set in long ago and a fresh bandage change will make no difference as the smell overtakes the discussion.

[vox]

What else are they going to talk about?  If they start comparing it to AROS hardware or MOS hardware, reality starts to bite in on why AOS4 is boxed in and no where to turn to.  Gangrene set in long ago and a fresh bandage change will make no difference as the smell overtakes the discussion.

You are allowed to think whatever you like of SAM boards, but most of customers are pleased with ACube. Plus beside expensive X1000 there are no PPC boards in production now.

Surely, everyone can get used Pegs, old AmigaOnes or PPC Macs, but they are selling more just because people tend to get high end systems like X1000 or G5 Mac.

We could run this on each machine tested to see the strength and weaknesses of each machine.

http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads

Agreed. Downloaded suite and will run it on x86 MINT to see how does it performs while waiting. If there is an X1000 owner that would do it now, you are welcome to do it with him, since my X1000 will not arrive in less then two weeks (AmigaKit goes vacation on system building)

[Terminills]

Agreed. Downloaded suite and will run it on x86 MINT to see how does it performs while waiting. If there is an X1000 owner that would do it now, you are welcome to do it with him, since my X1000 will not arrive in less then two weeks (AmigaKit goes vacation on system building)

Does this mean I can test my 4 year old Aros box and post the results?

[dammy]

Does this mean I can test my 4 year old Aros box and post the results?

No, Vox is getting a brand new system and only another brand new system would be justified to test against.  We have to keep things fair!

[Duce]

Why people keep reccomending sam boards?. These boards arent entry level by the price, and the power it offers is too low.

In the used market, they are more than affordable.  Even new (assuming you can find a new one to buy), the 440 boards are significantly cheaper than they were when they were brand new.  Performance wise, I am willing to bet most people who own them have few to no complaints.  

I certainly don't, and I've owned mine since 2008.  I still find it as peppy as I did when I bought it, and I didn't buy it with the intentions of it being a world class rendering machine or anything silly like that.

Curious, have you used a SAM machine before?

[yssing]

You won't hear any compliants from me about the sam440 from me, I am quite happy with it.

For those who need to use a mac g5, use it with mos and be happy with it. Those who need x86 or arm can use aros and be happy with it.

The rest of us who wants to use AOS4.x use that and are happy with it.

The people I see complaining about AOS4.x are most likely not users of AOS4.x and probably never will be. And funny as their nagging are, it is also becoming very boring.

[Terminills]

The people I see complaining about AOS4.x are most likely not users of AOS4.x and probably never will be. And funny as their nagging are, it is also becoming very boring.

I complain about the cost of entry of Aos4 all the time.  and yet..



Doesn't change the fact that personally I think Aros is a better system.

[itix]

In the used market, they are more than affordable.  Even new (assuming you can find a new one to buy), the 440 boards are significantly cheaper than they were when they were brand new.  Performance wise, I am willing to bet most people who own them have few to no complaints.  

When I had my A1200 with 040 and BVision I was happy with it. It didnt feel slow. When I jumped to Peg1/G3@600MHz I was more than satisfied with it and suddenly my old A1200 was slow and limited. If I was upgrading from my A1200 again I could consider getting SAM if it was available in 2005 and Pegasos 2 didnt exist.

Personally I would try to get Pegasos 2 because it has better price and is more performant.

[vox]

No, Vox is getting a brand new system and only another brand new system would be justified to test against.  We have to keep things fair!

Dear Dammy, don`t be a lawyar. I will post extensive results from Linux and AmigaOS. I don`t expect miracles with CPU - about same clock G4 performance, but memory and I/O are simply newer techs then used in PPC Macs, so I expect expected.

If I bought a G4 or G5 MorphOS machine would it somehow in anyway help me to create OS4 software?

I only have classic Amigas now.

I will never ever have $3000.00 for an X1000.

No, you can`t run OS4 software on those. I also throught I will never be able to afford X1000 but will pay it in 60 months (59 now).

However, newer high end models bring older SAMs and AmigaOnes to market used at affordable prices.

[WolfToTheMoon]

However, newer high end models bring older SAMs and AmigaOnes to market used at affordable prices.

That's true, but Teron A1s are buggy, SAMs are slow. So, except Peg 2, there isn't anything attractive in the second-hand OS4 market either.