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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #74 from previous page: August 05, 2013, 05:55:32 PM »
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I don't think anyone is complaining about OS4.

People are complaining that they would like to run OS4 but are unimpressed with the limited range of hardware available to run OS4 on.

I haven't used OS4 on my own hardware since I sold my BPPC a few years ago but if Hyperion ported it to Macs I'd buy a copy the day it was released, just like many Peg2 owners did.

I will just say that other way around works too: many SAM and X1000 users would like to see MorphOS on their system. SAM 460 port is good way to go, sadly MOS team refused Nemo board from Trevor.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #75 on: August 05, 2013, 06:59:24 PM »
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I will just say that other way around works too: many SAM and X1000 users would like to see MorphOS on their system. SAM 460 port is good way to go, sadly MOS team refused Nemo board from Trevor.


Why should they work for free?  I'm sure he pays Hyperion to port OS4 to X1000 rather than just giving them a free motherboard.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #76 on: August 05, 2013, 08:33:54 PM »
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Why should they work for free?  I'm sure he pays Hyperion to port OS4 to X1000 rather than just giving them a free motherboard.

Well, same can be said for OS4 port for MacMini. Both Hyperion and MOS team expect to be paid for new mobo ports, which is not likely. And not like there are million PPC choices - its exhausted beside SAMs and X1000 for MOS and PPC Macs for AOS4.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #77 on: August 05, 2013, 08:42:18 PM »
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Well, same can be said for OS4 port for MacMini. Both Hyperion and MOS team expect to be paid for new mobo ports, which is not likely. And not like there are million PPC choices - its exhausted beside SAMs and X1000 for MOS and PPC Macs for AOS4.


The difference is that Hyperion could potentially gain thousands of new customers by releasing the (already existing) Mac port of OS4.

How many potential new customers would an X1000 port bring the MorphOS Team? A couple of hundred at most.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #78 on: August 05, 2013, 08:53:29 PM »
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The difference is that Hyperion could potentially gain thousands of new customers by releasing the (already existing) Mac port of OS4..

I don't think "they" could because Moana is owned and copyrighted by one of the ACube (former? present?) employees ...

They would have to make their own or pay him for what he's done I guess ...

Whole Moana scandal just seems like a silly game to me really , laptop got stolen , it got released etc ...

Reasons why AOS 4 won't be ported to Mac are known only to Ben and possibly Bill McEwen and they are not legal in their nature because if you have a legal problem in a case like this there is always a legal workaround to solve it and Ben would find it in a heartbeat if he wanted to ...
 

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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2013, 09:24:02 PM »
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I don't think "they" could because Moana is owned and copyrighted by one of the ACube (former? present?) employees ...

They would have to make their own or pay him for what he's done I guess ...

Whole Moana scandal just seems like a silly game to me really , laptop got stolen , it got released etc ...

Reasons why AOS 4 won't be ported to Mac are known only to Ben and possibly Bill McEwen and they are not legal in their nature because if you have a legal problem in a case like this there is always a legal workaround to solve it and Ben would find it in a heartbeat if he wanted to ...


I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

What Ben wants and what the OS4 devs want aren't always the same thing methinks.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2013, 12:32:51 AM »
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Overclocking wastes giant blobs of electricity.  Electrical consumption does not increase linearly.  I think it increases exponentially.  It would be smarter to underclock it.  Then next year buy yourself a new computer with all the money you saved on your electric bill from not overclocking it.


Not exactly true. Overclocking uses a less than linear increase in power *until* you increase voltages. Only then does power consumption rise drastically (in fact Ive even had a core2duo that I overclocked and undervolted, requiring less power than stock frequency).

Some architectures overclock reasonably well without being overvolted.
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Re: Speed rankings of Next Gen hardware
« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2013, 01:41:17 AM »
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How many potential new customers would an X1000 port bring the MorphOS Team? A couple of hundred at most.


A couple of hundred? lmao more like you could count them on your hand. This is why these companies never release numbers they would shock alot of the fanboys..

Project Moana or whatever its called should have been the path for os4 instead they chose to do it like Eyetech model with proprietary hw bundled with software for outrageous prices (Notice how Morphos hw is always very reasonably priced? I got my peg1 for $299 new and peg2 for $499 new)
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