Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini

[giZmo350]

@haywirepc
 
4) Hyperion ****ed them out of using AROS but people are complaining they are not using an amiga os. It could have been aros, if hyperion didn't **** them into using linux instead. If you feel that strongly about wanting an amiga os on what they are making, petition hyperion to let them use aros and stop bitching about it.
 
 
.....How did Hyperion **** CUSA out of AROS? That's total BS! How did Hyperion have anything to do with CUSA's business plan or, for that matter, the lack of one?! Does AROS contain some elements of what Hyperion rightly owns? If so then all CUSA has to do is pay Hyperion a royalty fee! If Hyperion said NO to that then that's Hyperion's business. If Hyperion's only goal is to stop Amiga OS X86 then why don't they put out a hit on the AROS Development Team?
 
 
5) That vic slim is damn sexy. I could think of great things to do with one of those... Or a few of those around my house.
 
 
....Then buy some! And put AROS on them! Better yet just put AmiKit on them!
 
 
All the pr problems they had could be fixed by shutting up and getting product out the door. This is hard to do if your really working your ass off.
and have to take alot of time I suppose to defend your efforts and your vision. I don't envy anyone in that position, because it sucks. If you shut up your dodging questions. If you speak your damned for speaking your mind.
 
 
....."Defend what efforts"?! What vision?! What does Hyperion or AROS have to do with CUSA's efforts?! CUSA is what it is!!! Why should Hyperion or AROS just hand over YEARS of hard work to CUSA? Just so that CUSA can reap all the profits off other peoples' backs? Is Hyperion and AROS just supposed to hand over their work for the good of the "community"? Is CUSA paying you?
 
 
9) A reboot of the commodore continuity and amiga timeline is a difficult task. What an incredible story commodore and amiga have had. Imagine suddenly inheriting that, and suddenly being responsible for that legacy. Anyone's shoulders would be bruised by such a burden.
 
 
.... INHERITING?!!!! Exactly my point!!! CUSA doesn't have the right to inherit ANYTHING! You mean STEAL? YOU ARE EFFING CRAZY!!! :crazy:
 
"Imagine suddenly inheriting that, and suddenly being responsible for that legacy. Anyone's shoulders would be bruised by such a burden."
 
Oh poor CUSA!!! TFB!!! Where do you come up with such thoughts? You make it sound like CUSA has the "RIGHT" to be some sort of dictatorship by proxy! GFY! According to you, it would seem that every company that has anything to do with AMIGA should just hand it over to CUSA! Why don't you just apply your own logic and go beg CUSA for some free stuff and see how far you get! POOR CUSA MY A$$! Oh poor CUSA is "bruised!" YAFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[whabang]

Well, it really doesn't matter who wrote it, although three or four names pop into my mind while reading it.

I just wish everyone could stop beating the dead horse only to try to revive it the next day. The miggy will never be back as a serious platform, and while my hat's off to the Hyperion guys for trying to maintain it as a hobbyist platform, CUSA's overpriced hardware just seems to be a really poor business idea. A cheap Atom/Fusion based box bundled with eUAE, Amiga forever and a few decent games would probably sell better.

[psxphill]

1) PPC is dead, dead, dead.

It's not really dead, it's used in the big three consoles of the current generation. This does mean though that IBM won't come knocking anytime soon and are unlikely to answer our phone calls.
 

All the pr problems they had could be fixed by shutting up and getting product out the door.

They annoyed some very vocal people at the beginning and it snowballed from there. They should keep quiet and not get involved in petty squabbles, but we should judge them on the product they sell & not their personality.
 
The C64X and Amiga Mini case look quite nice, I've not bought either and I'd want to know I wasn't going to get any heat problems etc before I would. The price would need to move a little as well.

[eb15]

In my opinion things haven't changed with the Amiga Mini, because as far as we know not one has been actually sold.  They're only claiming to sell such things.  But without buyers who cares?

This operation seems to be either an attempt to revive and sell an old brand name to foreign manufacturers at a profit, or an investment scheme trying to pull in investment money, and make a generous salary or two out of the operation giving "naive hopes" that it will take off one day.  

In my opinion, what has been painfully obvious is that Barry hasn't had a real budget for _ANY_ development, be that hardware or software.  AROS still isn't ready as a consumer OS on any of its hardware platforms, and the AGA compatible and beyond fpga clone platforms aren't ready yet either if cusa would just license ROMS  and OS3.9 from Amiga Inc..  New PPC hardware is too expensive or underpowered and also requires the non-existant development funds to support it, so what does that leave for cusa to do, but to try and sell some commodity hardware with minimal cost software to pay the minimally accepted license fees with and keep the trademarks tied up on their behalf...

[desiv]

Sadly we lost Asha DeVelder on Jan 3, 2009.

Yep, quite a loss..
I wrote a Solitaire game for her for the Amiga back in the day..  Never totally finished it, but it was playable.
Years later, I got back in touch with her, and found out she was still playing it!
(Or she was nice enough to lie to me about it.)

We stayed online friends after that.

Met (virtually) her on Fidonet initially..
Those were the days..  ;-)

desiv

[number6]

Yep, quite a loss..
I wrote a Solitaire game for her for the Amiga back in the day..  Never totally finished it, but it was playable.
Years later, I got back in touch with her, and found out she was still playing it!
(Or she was nice enough to lie to me about it.)

We stayed online friends after that.

Met (virtually) her on Fidonet initially..
Those were the days..  ;-)

desiv

The good folks at *teamamiga* have kept her irc channel alive in her memory. You're always welcome to drop in, unless you already do? Heh.

#6

[Fats]

@haywirepc

.....How did Hyperion **** CUSA out of AROS?

The Amiga trademark may only be used for computer which don't have an OS that is  AmigaOS4-like; Hyperion let it be known that they consider AROS violating this license requirement.

Anyway I think C=USA already decided not to use AROS before they could use this excuse because it needed investment to make it support all parts from their computers.

greets,
Staf.

[Iggy]

The Amiga trademark may only be used for computer which don't have an OS that is  AmigaOS4-like; Hyperion let it be known that they consider AROS violating this license requirement.

Anyway I think C=USA already decided not to use AROS before they could use this excuse because it needed investment to make it support all parts from their computers.

greets,
Staf.

I don't remember Hyperion making a statement on this.
Amiga Inc. is forbidden from developing an OS that is substantially similar to AmigaOS (so maybe they can't license the name to someone else to pursue a similar course).

[number6]

I don't remember Hyperion making a statement on this.
Amiga Inc. is forbidden from developing an OS that is substantially similar to AmigaOS (so maybe they can't license the name to someone else to pursue a similar course).

Commodore USA to relaunch Amiga brand with series of AROS desktops

source

Our American lawyers will take action against this.

This is blatant violation of the rights Hyperion Entertainment secured in the settlement agreement with Amiga Inc., Itec and Amino.

source

#6

[Yasu]

Amiga Inc. is forbidden from developing an OS that is substantially similar to AmigaOS (so maybe they can't license the name to someone else to pursue a similar course).

Is it likely that they would do that if they could though?

[cecilia]

I just dropped in and this article on the front page caught my eye....and I'm just reading page one and I see people are already 'taking my name in vein'  

I didn't submit this article. it's news to me. It's an interesting point. I don't know anything about this company so i can't offer an opinion. But unless someone is selling Something then there's nothing to say.

[smerf]

Hi,

@haywirepc,

I agree with you, PPC IS DEAD, even rotten core Mac computing company came down to that decision.

What you have to remember is that their are some people on Amiga.org that aren't exactly high tech. If it was up to them the 6502 or the Z80 would still be running their computers.

but

I agree with you, and I don't care how bad they flame me. If they would have gone either AMD or Intel back in 95 we wouldn't have this problem today.

Quit playing around with old junk arcahiac soon to be obsolete CPU's, just develope an operating system for the average PC.  That is why I am believing in AROS rather than MorphOS.

smerf

[Akiko]

I just dropped in and this article on the front page caught my eye....and I'm just reading page one and I see people are already 'taking my name in vein'  

I didn't submit this article. it's news to me. It's an interesting point. I don't know anything about this company so i can't offer an opinion. But unless someone is selling Something then there's nothing to say.

The plot thickens!

[commodorejohn]

Quit playing around with old junk arcahiac soon to be obsolete CPU's, just develope an operating system for the average PC.

You're against archaic CPUs, so you're endorsing an architecture from 1978?

[Methuselas]

I just dropped in and this article on the front page caught my eye....and I'm just reading page one and I see people are already 'taking my name in vein'  

I didn't submit this article. it's news to me. It's an interesting point. I don't know anything about this company so i can't offer an opinion. But unless someone is selling Something then there's nothing to say.

It was just a trick, CeCe, to get you to come back, 'cos all us "old-schoolers" missed you. ;P

In fact, it made me realize that you weren't around much, anymore, when people started mentioning you.

I am still convinced it was one of the Annex girls. XD

[smerf]

Hi,

@commodorejohn,

just imagine a PC turning on and not booting into windows but actually booting into the Amiga updated OS. Imagine being able to surf the net with this system, play up to date 3D modern games, with graphics and sound that are real like, and yet this system still has the functionallity of the Amiga utitlities. Just getting windows off my PC's would be a joy in itself. Never having to read Microsofts EULA, or if i change memory or a hard drive, having to call some body in India to get my computer validated. Never having to worry about how many times did I install this stupid OS, is it five or three uses before I have to buy another license.

Today's modern day computers, are great, it is the stupid Windows OS we have to use that messes them up. Linux does a good job on most software, but they lack the modern day games that have come out. If the game companies programmed games for Linux, Microsoft would probably be through.

smerf