The Best Things Come In Small Packages

[Tripitaka]

CUSA's claim that this is the first new 'Amiga' for years in technically correct.  Eyetech, Acube, Hyperion, Aeon et al never had the rights to use the Amiga name, only 'Amigaone'.
So, this is, literally, the first new 'Amiga' computer since the A4000T in, what, 1997-ish?

I just wonder if Jay Miner would have been happy about it being called an Amiga. I very much doubt it.

[bloodline]

@Tripitaka,

That's cool! And I do feel that the USB flash has been much more of a success than you give it credit for... Sure the Big Content producers have avoided it like the plague, but everyone I know has loads of them and when I attend an event most companies given away content on them... Hell, I can pick up a 4gig in my local pound shop!!! :-o

[bloodline]

Just saw this about "Love Film" on engadget...

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/lovefilm-streaming/

[commodorejohn]

Doesn't have to be Apple, you could use Amazon or whoever, my point is that Physical Media is basically dead... I don't like moving parts in my computer.

Hah, that's a funny definition of "physical media." Do you mean that, since you have an SSD in your computer, all your data exists in an ethereal "cloud" dimension that has transcended base matter? 'Cause I got news for you there...

In all seriousness, though, physical media isn't going anywhere yet - as pointed out, DVDs are still the format of choice for movie purchases, and while I think HDTV is a scam myself, it's not like Blu-Rays aren't selling. CDs continue to find shelf space in every store (even outside the general-merchandise retailers) no matter how much RIAA bawls about piracy.

The simple fact is that disc media has too many advantages to ignore. Optical discs don't match the storage density of Flash drives, but they're much cheaper to manufacture, and in home-video quantities that makes a huge difference. Hard disks may be slower and have to deal with moving parts (though honestly the danger there is vastly overrated, we're a long ways from the days of constant possibility of head-crash,) but SSDs can't touch 'em in price-per-megabyte.

I think Apple was right; optical storage is, absolutely, finished. I haven't touched anything on an optical disc in at least three years, and my now 6-month old iMac's DVD drive has never been used nor will it ever be used. All the software, movies (in 1080p), TV shows and music I own were downloaded and are stored on an external drive.

Yeah, and I have a buttload of stuff on my hard drive, too, but I can't go to the thrift store and buy a used download. That's really the point behind the attempts to move away from physical media, they want to kill secondhand sales.

[runequester]

Yeah, and I have a buttload of stuff on my hard drive, too, but I can't go to the thrift store and buy a used download. That's really the point behind the attempts to move away from physical media, they want to kill secondhand sales.

Gaming consoles are moving that way anyways, mobile devices are there already (check your cell phone contract) and plenty of stores won't carry second hand PC software.

Im surprised they haven't simply legislated it out of existence, to be fair.


"Information is property"

[haywirepc]

Yes, the power draw is too much for the PSU. They will hopefully figure that out when they finally build the prototype. If it's not melted too bad I'll bid on it...
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Maybe they should actually build real prototypes (instead of just photoshopped cases) before making announcements, then they would know the power supply won't work... Just saying... That would be best, especially with their history of photoshopped faked products that never see the light of day.:razz:

[A1260]

I do not understand why they make Marketing for their "Amiga" on the amiga sites. There is nothing in that has anything to do with Amiga. I am not against Linux but what has a pure Linux-distribution with Amiga? They never supported any of the existing amiga-camps. They could have donated money to different projects or could have paid someone to create drivers, port software or anything else. They never did. There are no connections to the community except the Logo (and Amiga Inc.). If they had wanted they could have sold "Commodore PC" with Aros preinstalled (and their own Linux) but they did not. And even if you seperate our emotional view it stays a non-innovative standard PC with Linux-distribution for too much money.

cusa could have supported aros, that was their intention at first but then as they discovered they couldnt just borrow it for free, but actually had to pay to support it. cusa got on its high horse and started spewing crap all over the community. cusa have corned it self as the fool and they do it again and again, never learn. they could have got aros and supported it, then they have been accepted in the amiga community.

[LoadWB]

Gaming consoles are moving that way anyways, mobile devices are there already (check your cell phone contract)

In some cases you don't even have to explicitly limit resale.  I don't know how iPhone and Android apps work, but here's how J2ME apps work when purchased from, say, the AT&T Mall.

You browse the software via your phone then make your purchase.  Your phone then downloads a JAD file which includes the download link for the application's JAR as well as a digital certificate.

The digital certificate has a finite life (some apps I've downloaded expire in two years) which means your phone won't accept it after expiration without some shenanigans, and the downloaded forced at the phone means you don't have an easy way to save it.

To get around the download part, I set my Firefox proxy to use the AT&T WAP proxy, set my user agent to mimic the supported phone (this is important as the AT&T Mall is programmed to reject unsupported and in some cases unlocked phones) then go on-line using my phone.  I capture the JAD and JAR files and store them on my computer.

To get around the certificate issue, I could try to re-sign the application, which is not likely.  Or I can set the phone's time back to a period during which the cert is valid.  I can also make it part of the phone's customization pack and have it install during initial start up.

But for the average user, all of this means you buy it and you can never give it away, sell it, or restore it to your phone if something happens.

[runequester]

Bonus points that downloads generally don't transfer to a new device, except in some rather specific circumstances.


"information as property" and it ain't yours

[Tripitaka]

cusa could have supported aros, that was their intention at first but then as they discovered they couldnt just borrow it for free, but actually had to pay to support it. cusa got on its high horse and started spewing crap all over the community. cusa have corned it self as the fool and they do it again and again, never learn. they could have got aros and supported it, then they have been accepted in the amiga community.

I for one would have had a bit more respect for them if they had done so. Instead they did the intellectual equivalence of defecating on Jay Miners grave.

[CritAnime]

Found a nice computer and it's cheaper http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/Evolution-3930K-OC-4-5Ghz-94p1243.htm and all I need is one of those AmigaKit boing ball stickers and a copy of Ubuntu/Mint. Awesome

[trekiej]

I do like the computer. It would be hard to buy one at that price.
If I it had Ubuntu on it would be nice. It really needs AOS4.1.
hmm.
I need to buy that case.

[persia]

It's all about product placement....

[vox]

I don't disagree they need to make a profit.  It's not a charity.
 
But, I don't think the system is justified at $2500 and I don't think there is anyone who will pay it.  They have *at least* $1,000 worth of profit built in.  The list of x86 computers that will blow the doors off of it for less money is very, very, very long.
 
I could be wrong.  I just want to know ONE person who is buying it.  That's all, just one.

Dropped to $1995 from 2449 or so, in few days of criticism. Soon they might even go realistic, even now it has about $500 (a 40% profit)

[Jpan1]

New Amiga they say? Well, it's a very hi-spec computer in a box with an Amiga Logo on it..That's not an Amiga, no matter who has the rights to the name, the Amiga was a very original computer that offered (at the time) something a bit different.
Like most people I agree, you can get a metalic box and engarve a logo on it and call it what ever you like, but the Amiga computer was based on custom chip parts that gave it the edge over other computers and at a suitable price which made it popular for all kinds of usage...but this here is just another pre-fab 'Amiga' in my opinion, nice to look at though.

[Ral-Clan]

While doing a Google search on the new Amiga I found this picture of the Commodore USA's 1000X (not Trevor's X1000).  It looks different than the 1000X currently shown on the C-USA site.  

http://www.logiprise.com/j/Amiga1000x_2012.png

Reminiscent of the original A1000 (casewise).

Maybe it's just a homemade photoshop.

I can see the picture, but unfortunately my web filter won't let me see any of the web page it's posted on.