The Best Things Come In Small Packages

[Pyromania]

Here is a comparison of the GeForce shipping in the Amiga Mini vs the one included in my high specced iMac 27" i7 which is around 18 months old. Please note the Radeon in my iMac seems very very zippy.

http://www.hwcompare.com/7140/geforce-gt-430-1gb-vs-radeon-hd-4850-x2-512mb/

[CritAnime]

The card they are supplying is essentially a really nice HTPC card. I wouldn't push it to do anything more than that really.

[Kesa]

Actually i think the higher cost can be justified somewhat. If you go through the numbers you will see that even something simple like doing the engraving will see the costs per unit rise considerably. Things like S&D and labor costs add up pretty quickly especially when the cases are made JIT.

I would consider spending that much on a bare bones case as i like the Amiga engraving. But not the Commodore tag.

[Iggy]

I just thought I would add that I've stopped at DVD too... Blue Ray doesn't offer me anything that I can't download from iTunes.

Sorry, I just can't buy my content from Apple.
The thought makes my skin crawl.

[Optimus]

Actually i think the higher cost can be justified somewhat. If you go through the numbers you will see that even something simple like doing the engraving will see the costs per unit rise considerably. Things like S&D and labor costs add up pretty quickly especially when the cases are made JIT.
 
I would consider spending that much on a bare bones case as i like the Amiga engraving. But not the Commodore tag.

I don't disagree they need to make a profit.  It's not a charity.  And, I think a lot of people will consider and perhaps buy the Barebones, it's worth it to some people to have a nice engraved Amiga case, and it's inexpensive enough most people could buy it.  They can and will charge as much as they can, with the Blu-Ray they are buying it's only $160 more for engraving, whatever licence fees they are paying, misc costs and profit.
 
If you want one, buy it now, the price will go up, plus they have free shipping.  The C64x barebones used to be $250.  They charged like $20 to ship it.
 
But, I don't think the system is justified at $2500 and I don't think there is anyone who will pay it.  They have *at least* $1,000 worth of profit built in.  The list of x86 computers that will blow the doors off of it for less money is very, very, very long.
 
I could be wrong.  I just want to know ONE person who is buying it.  That's all, just one.

[Optimus]

That power draw is still too much for the PSU and I have to say, thanks for the post, you made me laugh.
 

Your welcome.  I'm usually not very funny, but CUSA is a constant supply of entertainment
 
Yes, the power draw is too much for the PSU. They will hopefully figure that out when they finally build the prototype.  If it's not melted too bad I'll bid on it...
 
 That's an excellent calculator, and the one thing I think the link I put up is it didn't take into account for is the Blu-Ray / DVD burner combo.  Those things when your burning a DVD suck power pretty good.  But, your usually not playing Crysis or anything when your burning DVDs so I think it balances out.
 
If I were building that system, Mini-ITX with integrated graphics and that i7, I wouldn't feel to safe with anything less than a 300 watt power supply.  It will be easy to tip over at 120 watts.  I don't think that case can use anything other than a Pico-PSU, which tops out at 160 watts.  You would have to find a killer laptop DC-to-DC PSU to stick in there.
 
And Barry said they learned not to have the first customers beta test it....sure...

[CritAnime]

The packard bell box computer I owned at one point had a 300 PSU in it and that was powering a core 2 duo and some slimline graphics card. And that was from a computer that cost £500. PSU's aren't expensive and a trip to Maplin can see you walking out with a 700 PSU (http://www.maplin.co.uk/700w-black-cit-atx-power-supply-with-12cm-silent-fan-264565) for £40. This is obviously for a full ITX PSU but HTPC PSU's are still only around £60-£100 depending on needed power.

[bloodline]

Sorry, I just can't buy my content from Apple.
The thought makes my skin crawl.

Doesn't have to be Apple, you could use Amazon or whoever, my point is that Physical Media is basically dead... I don't like moving parts in my computer.

[OlafS3]

I do not understand why they make Marketing for their "Amiga" on the amiga sites. There is nothing in that has anything to do with Amiga. I am not against Linux but what has a pure Linux-distribution with Amiga? They never supported any of the existing amiga-camps. They could have donated money to different projects or could have paid someone to create drivers, port software or anything else. They never did. There are no connections to the community except the Logo (and Amiga Inc.). If they had wanted they could have sold "Commodore PC" with Aros preinstalled (and their own Linux) but they did not. And even if you seperate our emotional view it stays a non-innovative standard PC with Linux-distribution for too much money.

[cicero790]

Having Aros on as an option was the initial idea. I liked that, giving it a link to the heritage and also a possibility to gain more devs for rapid development. But before anything could be set into any kind of motion a nuclear reaction hit the Amiga sites.

[hooligan]

my point is that Physical Media is basically dead

Far from it. Dvd's and blurays are selling like never before, and 3d will boost bluray sells even more.

[Tripitaka]

Far from it. Dvd's and blurays are selling like never before, and 3d will boost bluray sells even more.

You are correct. DVD and Blu-Ray sales have both climbed over recent years and for those who are interested DVD outsells Blu-Ray about 3:1. However the comparative increase of both would give us about another 5 years before before Blu-Ray sales are as good as DVD sales. DVD still rules the roost it seems, perhaps not so surprising when one considers that the DVD player had the fastest take up rate of any consumer electronics device ever sold. The odd release does buck the trend however.

[bloodline]

You are correct. DVD and Blu-Ray sales have both climbed over recent years and for those who are interested DVD outsells Blu-Ray about 3:1. However the comparative increase of both would give us about another 5 years before before Blu-Ray sales are as good as DVD sales. DVD still rules the roost it seems, perhaps not so surprising when one considers that the DVD player had the fastest take up rate of any consumer electronics device ever sold. The odd release does buck the trend however.

Are you sure? I think DVD was out in 1996, but didn't really take off until 2001... I could be wrong I'm pulling numbers from memory here... But that's is quite a long uptake time, granted it could well be quicker than any other technology... But I'm not yet convinced.

[Lando]

I think Apple was right; optical storage is, absolutely, finished.  I haven't touched anything on an optical disc in at least three years, and my now 6-month old iMac's DVD drive has never been used nor will it ever be used. All the software, movies (in 1080p), TV shows and music I own were downloaded and are stored on an external drive.

CUSA's claim that this is the first new 'Amiga' for years in technically correct.  Eyetech, Acube, Hyperion, Aeon et al never had the rights to use the Amiga name, only 'Amigaone'.
So, this is, literally, the first new 'Amiga' computer since the A4000T in, what, 1997-ish?

[Tripitaka]

Are you sure? I think DVD was out in 1996, but didn't really take off until 2001... I could be wrong I'm pulling numbers from memory here... But that's is quite a long uptake time, granted it could well be quicker than any other technology... But I'm not yet convinced.

The DVD format was introduced in 1996, that is quite correct. However, this does not mark the introduction of players to the consumer. The format was test marketed in the USA in 1997, Europe in 1998 and Australia in 1999. By 2000 I had plenty of authoring work (that was my job). The uptake of DVD players was boosted hugely by PC drives and consoles of course and these are often counted when considering "DVD players".

It is worth noting too that this record has been thrashed by the Wii, iPad, iPhone 4 and Kinect so I should have said that the DVD player WAS the fastest selling of any consumer electronics devices at the time.

DVD owes a large part of it's success to a guy called Tony Choi. He is known as the worlds biggest user of plastic and set up six DVD production lines before most people had any idea what DVD was, if it contains plastic and is made in China, tony probably has something to do with it. I met Tony a couple of times, he's one of those guys that doesn't guess the future, he just makes it happen.

Just for the record I also hate moving parts in my computers. I do however like physical media. USB media would have been ideal IMHO but has sadly never caught on.

[Tripitaka]

CUSA's claim that this is the first new 'Amiga' for years in technically correct.  Eyetech, Acube, Hyperion, Aeon et al never had the rights to use the Amiga name, only 'Amigaone'.
So, this is, literally, the first new 'Amiga' computer since the A4000T in, what, 1997-ish?

I just wonder if Jay Miner would have been happy about it being called an Amiga. I very much doubt it.