The Best Things Come In Small Packages

[commodorejohn]

http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/2-welcome-mat/13674-commodore-usa-makes-it-right-lowers-prices-immediately-after-massive-consumer-outcry#13674

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

COMMODORE USA MAKES IT RIGHT; LOWERS PRICES IMMEDIATELY AFTER MASSIVE CONSUMER OUTCRY.

FORT LAUDERDALE, FL. March 22, 2012 – Commodore USA, LLC announced today  the revision of the introductory price of its latest offering, the  AMIGA mini, as well as the addition of configuration options, allowing  for the selection of both CPU and memory.

Due to an overwhelming outpouring of customer comments, along with those  posted on the major tech blogs, the company has listened to the  thousands of requests for both lower prices and more choices, and  responded today with prices and options that most respondents indicated  was in line with other current offerings.

CEO Barry Altman states “Although we were ecstatic over the enormous  traffic and positive interest generated by our recent product launch, we  were equally dismayed and disheartened by the negativity regarding our  initial pricing. In retrospect, we agree, and sincerely acknowledge our  mistake, and hope you will take a second look at our new options and  pricing.  For all those customers who purchased the new AMIGA mini since  yesterday’s launch, we have already reimbursed their credit card  account reflecting the price difference. We would also like to thank all  our supporters for their patience, as we attempt to revive the  legendary Commodore and AMIGA brands”.

I love the way Barry writes as if he expects to get newspaper articles on this Mickey Mouse outfit. What were they expecting the reaction to their selling a ~$900-1300 computer for $2500 to be?

[Optimus]

All none of them?
 
Barry: How many orders have we taken in last 24 hours?
Leo: Errr... zero.
Barry: Are you sure?
Leo: Yep, I counted them... twice!

Exactly.  Because, if they were selling at all he would have given everyone flaming them on the web the finger, not reduce the price.
 
Still waiting for one person to step forward and claim they bought one :laugh1:

[Optimus]

Pricey, but certainly not low quality.

Let's see what $2000 get's you:
 
1. No keyboard or mouse.
2. A power supply that will blow up once you reach 50% occupancy on the CPU
3. $40 GPU integrated into the motherboard
4. A two month wait to get one (and that's at least 4 months if the timing matches CUSA's previous record.
 
That says quality right there.
 
Plus, there is no pictures of this mythical machine, I don't care if they have the logos on them or not.  They can't find pictures they can photoshop of the motherboard in the case?

[dammy]

Actually the base model is now a i3 for $1495.  I7 with 16GB RAM and 1TB DH is $1995.

[Optimus]

Actually the base model is now a i3 for $1495. I7 with 16GB RAM and 1TB DH is $1995.

Actually, what difference does that make to my post.  I'll amend my statement:
 
What do you get for your $1500-$2000?
 
1. No mouse or keyboard
2. A power supply that will blow up
3. A $40 integrated GPU
4. A two month wait to get one (minimum)
5. A mythical box that doesn't exist except for photoshoped concept pictures.
 
P.S. I saw Barry say he would post a picture of the back with the motherboard installed today.  Leo too busy to Photoshop that for him?

[A1260]

I like the funny part where Barry says he has refunded all the customers that paid full price yesterday.
 
:roflmao:

 this just made my day... :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

[haywirepc]

Why no real pictures of the actual computers?

Why no videos of the actual computers?

I mean, I think I know why... but its sad.

Also, does anyone know... if the boing ball stickers from amigakit are liscenced by hyperion... Whats stopping someone from selling pcs with the amiga boing ball case badges?

Maybe I'll do that, just for fun. I will become "COMMODORE AMERICA."

I better start working on my photo shop skills though.

Its hard running a computer empire, you know.

Steven

[amigadave]

All none of them?  

Barry:  How many orders have we taken in last 24 hours?
Leo:  Errr... zero.
Barry:  Are you sure?
Leo:  Yep, I counted them... twice!

Good one Darrin!

That is exactly the number I was guessing they had sold so far too.  I guess great minds think alike.

Like everyone else here (except maybe one member), I doubt that any of these exist yet and this is just an idea that Barry and his staff (Leo), have thought of trying out.  The reason for the 4 to 6 week delivery time is so Leo can order all the separate parts at the lowest prices he can find online and then wait the one to two weeks for them to get delivered.  Then it takes a few more days for Leo to take the case to the engraver shop to get the Amiga logo lettering engraved into the case.  Another day to take a picture, so they will have something besides a photoshop version to show everyone two months from now and  then another week  to assemble the parts in the newly engraved case, so they can put it all into a generic box with a photoshoped label pasted on it, so it will be ready to ship to the buyer.

Ta Da! 4 to 6 weeks later you get their amazing new "Amiga" delivered to the 2 buyers dumb enough to buy one of these systems.  8 weeks later CUSA has to come up with a new plan to try to make money from the Commodore & Amiga names that they have purchased, because their plans so far aren't getting them anywhere and they are probably starting to realize that CUSA is loosing money too quickly and with all the bad press and lack of sales, they will soon be out of business and can't resell the only thing that they have that is worth anything, the license to use the Commodore and Amiga names.  At least let us hope that they cannot sub-lease this license that then purchased to use those names.

[Middleman]

cusa could have supported aros, that was their intention at first but then as they discovered they couldnt just borrow it for free, but actually had to pay to support it. cusa got on its high horse and started spewing crap all over the community. cusa have corned it self as the fool and they do it again and again, never learn. they could have got aros and supported it, then they have been accepted in the amiga community.

It was the bounty wasn't it? CUSA wasn't prepared to pay it right?
It's understandable...it's a large sum of money for anyone to pay especially if they were unprepared...

Saying that don't put the downer on it yet, I still have high hopes for AROS....if the new Amiga sales kick off you never know what may happen...

The funny thing that always gets me is....given the importance of Amiga cross-compatibility with the x86 platform, why hasn't Hyperion/Amiga Inc. actually done anything about it ie. like acquire or work with AROS? It would make it so much easier from a development perspective to develop official versions of AmigaOS for the x86 platform (given now it is the dominant architecture, with portability & power). Isn't that what Apple did with NeXT? They bought it so they could do the needed work without the legal wrangles? I don't understand Hyperions logic....

[haywirepc]

YES AOS should be ported to x86, but it will never happen. They LIKE robbing you for ridiculously overpriced 10 year old spec hardware just to run their precious os.

On this new "amiga".

This whole thing is kind of ridiculous. even 2k for a computer you can get elsewhere for 1k is just not going to work. I don't think even the most rapid amiga fans would pay an extra 1000$ just for an engraved case. If anything, they can now just buy their own boing ball or amiga stickers and case badges.

Also, after all their hype and talk of 20,000$ workstation class amigas this is a complete and total joke, especially the gpu. What did they just get these boards really cheap at some surplus computer site?

Steven

[Akiko]

It was the bounty wasn't it? CUSA wasn't prepared to pay it right?
It's understandable...it's a large sum of money for anyone to pay especially if they were unprepared...

It should been a mere pittance for a company that would had us believe their advertising budget was some millions of dollars. You are the second top poster on the CUSA forums, are you just a fan are some how affiliated to this company?

[TheBilgeRat]

Yes, low quality.  1400 dollars at newegg will get you a top of the line mobo, PSU, memory, hard drive (gen 2 SSD), name brand case, card reader, blu ray player, and an NVIDIA card two off from the top of the line.  If I bump my figure to 1550, that covers the Leopold Otaku brown Tenkeyless, Razer Abyssus and Puretrack Talent mousepad.

At my price point, you're building an I3.  I can get an I3 from Dell for 300 bucks.

[wrath of khan]

4 to 6 weeks is absurd.I think they plan to just assemble them as they are ordered if anyones mad enough to buy one.This is quite funny and hard to believe but highly entertaining.Ive just returned to amiga stuff recently and its my interest in natami thats brought me back.

[CritAnime]

I have said it before but I will say it again. There will be people who buy these machines. They will buy them from either a nostalgia stand point, because they genuinly believe that these are good computers, from the brand name or because they have the money to blow on one of these computers.
 
That's what CUSA will be banking on. I bet they will have a few hundered orders simply from this recent price drop. Because people will believe that they are getting a good deal from it.
 
They will probably sell enough in the long run to keep them around for a while longer anyway. Or until Barry moves onto something else.

[Duce]

All fair and good to those who want to blow their cash on one of these - I certainly do not care where people spend their money.

I do, however get a little annoyed at people selling garbage that their customers will only have problems with.  There is no room for debate.  A 120 watt PSU is not enough.  It just isn't, and there are going to be all sorts of problems.

That 120 watt PSU isn't even HALF of what a basic mini itx i3/i5/i7 board with integrated gfx requires when it's all assembled with drives in full computer form.
Basic i3 Mini-ITX with 1 HDD, one optical drive, the add on wifi module, plus the fans that come with the case will pull well over 250 watts under 95% load.  This doesn't even factor in USB devices, etc.

I've built. worked on and sold 100's of custom made high end PC's, and I find it appalling that they would knowingly sell something like this with a 120 watt PSU like that.

EDIT:  The Intel i7 2700k (Sandybridge, LGA1155, 4 core/8 thread, 8 MB cache, 3.50 GHz, 32 nm) has a 95 Watt TDP.  This is the CPU they offer in the high end Amiga Mini that also contains the 120 watt Power Supply Unit.

[TheDaddy]

I love the immediate refund announcement! This is pure comedy, I just imagine Apple, or Dell/Alienware or Asus doing that!

What I'll do is I'll wait for the $20,000 super-workstation...