A reminder about filesharing sites

[ChaosLord]

They were asked time and time and time and time again, "please take our IP down" and the requests were ignored regardless of how they were delivered.

**** this guy.

How do u know this to be true?

Are you now, or have you ever been an employee of Megaupload.com?

[Markus_Bieler]

megaupload was yesterday.


today it's rapidshare

Markus

[ChaosLord]

After Obama gets reelected he will also be shutting down DropBox and ThePirateBay.  They have only a couple of years left.

[Matt_H]

Aminet Forever!!!

But God help u if u try to upload a 1GB game

Does Aminet have capacity issues like that? (Is it slow? Or not possible?) Definitely something worth discussing (and resolving) to make it a more attractive archival repository.

[XDelusion]

Wow, people stll believe in the official report through the corporate conglomeration known as the news media (always protective of it's merchandise,agenda, and those up top who help fund, promote, and protect them).

Shall I suggest reading The Media Monopoly? The Critical Warnings of Neil Postman? Shall I advise you to take heed to religion and the world's tribal ancestors who did not put the value of objects above freedom, tradition, culture, tribe, family, or the gods?

Have you lost your mind?

The necessity of civil government grows up with the acquisition of valuable property. Till there be property there can be no government, the very end of which is to secure wealth and to defend the rich from the poor. - Adam Smith


This is abot property and control, manifest destiny.  nothing more, nothing less.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_and_society

[MobbyG]

Look, I'm not going to defend acts of piracy, but there are already perfectly valid legal channels for going after pirates. Many non-cooperative sites have been shut down through perfectly legitimate legal means. The reason SOPA and PIPA are being put forward isn't because it's the only way to stop piracy, it's because the legitimate ways to stop it involve a certain amount of time and money, and rather than choose their battles and accept that a certain amount of small-scale infringement is going to happen, the content industry wants to be given the keys to the kingdom so that they can shut down infringers at whim (without burden of proof, due process, or chance of appeal.) It's a power grab, not just a collection of poor oppressed little businesses trying to look out for the defenseless artists they shelter from the bad, cruel pirates.

And while Megaupload may have been under investigation, I refuse to believe that the timing and scale of this ("this" being "a total shutdown of the site and the arrest of half a dozen foreign nationals in foreign countries for a foreign-based business") is not intended to send a message. (As indeed it has, with several significant file-upload sites knuckling under in the days since...)

Well said. I agree totally. After reading this, the movie quote: "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!" comes to mind.

[Tripitaka]

We can all point our fingers at government agencies and blame them, but everyone who downloads movies and music that they haven't paid for and then decide they're not going to pay for it even if they like it are the ones to blame.

I'll admit to using file sharing services and they have a legitimate use.  I've downloaded CD albums to replace my scratched disks

Under US law downloading CD albums to replace your scratched disks is illegal. Owning a licensed disk does not give you the right to download an unlicensed copy from another source even though you can copy the licensed disk for your own personal use.

I know that's ludicrous, but that's the law. So Darrin, you just admitted to being a music pirate on a public forum. Welcome to the NWO, sucks doesn't it.

[XDelusion]

And now that public domain can be bought, hardware can still be considered property of it's maker regardless if you bought and paid for it, corporations have the same "rights" as people, and information (truth, evidence, and therefore the means to justice) can be owned...


How far do you think they are going to take this?

[gertsy]

Under US law downloading CD albums to replace your scratched disks is illegal. Owning a licensed disk does not give you the right to download an unlicensed copy from another source even though you can copy the licensed disk for your own personal use.

I know that's ludicrous, but that's the law. So Darrin, you just admitted to being a music pirate on a public forum. Welcome to the NWO, sucks doesn't it.

I don't condone piracy but if that's the Law then it is wrong.  I've always abided by the same social law that if I have purchased something I own it or have title to it.  Be it a music CD or a movie DVD.
Under Australian Law a product must be fit for the purpose for which it is sold for a period limited by warranty/guarantee.  That's a fair Law.

[XDelusion]

Here's one...

Piracy is not a crime, it's a life style choice and pirates should not be discriminated against for expressing their free will as they please.

[runequester]

Without piracy, ****ty music wouldn't spread as much

i gave up on replacing destroyed cd's with downloaded versions. Nowadays i try to find indie music or i'll just listen to the song on youtube (until they shut that down too).

Like xdelusion there I oppose patents and copyrights on a moral basis, though from the basis of being a communist, whereas he opposes them from the basis of spirituality.
Common ground and common sense.

[koaftder]

Kim Schmitz is a charlatan and career criminal/scam artist. This case didn't happen over night. The indictment paper is mile long. These guys are going to roast, and they deserve it.

[XDelusion]

Without piracy, ****ty music wouldn't spread as much

i gave up on replacing destroyed cd's with downloaded versions. Nowadays i try to find indie music or i'll just listen to the song on youtube (until they shut that down too).

Like xdelusion there I oppose patents and copyrights on a moral basis, though from the basis of being a communist, whereas he opposes them from the basis of spirituality.
Common ground and common sense.

[Krischan76]

I read somewhere on a German news site, megaupload was planning to distribute music directly from the artists (for money), thus bypassing the music industry entirely. I cannot judge, however, how much truth is in this.

[haywirepc]

Having spent 10 years in the music industry as an artist, I can tell you this...

Artists don't make much money from record sales, record companies do.

Record companies HATED cd's. They hate mp3's even more. All the power they once had is slowly eroding away, yet some of them still pump millions into promoting garbage to the masses.

Some large companies still do to a large extent control what people hear, and listen to the **** they try and pump into your head, its total garbage. I agree with a previous poster, I just listen to indie stuff mostly these days.

Previous to my time in the industry, I always bought cd's from artists I wanted to support, but little did I know those artists saw pennies from my purchases, if they were lucky.

At one point my "band" had cd's, t shirts, music videos, posters, the works.
What did I get? I got to live on a tour bus for years traveling all over the country doing concerts for next to nothing,while a record company was selling that stuff and making excuses for where all the money went. At the end of the contracts I quit,  I barely ever saw a dime from all that.

Is my story unique? No way. I know hundreds of stories just like mine.

So don't for a second think your stealing from an "artist" if you download mp3's... Your stealing from the dirtballs ripping off that artist, period.

If you want to support an artist, buy stuff from their website, or from artists who sell their own mp3's or cds.

[Daedalus]

i gave up on replacing destroyed cd's with downloaded versions. Nowadays i try to find indie music or i'll just listen to the song on youtube (until they shut that down too).

I just have to ask - what do you do to your CDs that means it's a routine thing for them to be destroyed and have to have to replace them with downloaded content. As they say, maybe "you're doing it wrong!"

I always bought - and continue to buy - CDs of music I like, and CDs I bought 17 years ago still work perfectly. I know the artist doesn't get very much from the sale, but I like to have proper media anyway. Wherever possible I do buy the CD directly from the artist. It happens at a lot of indie gigs, you head up to the stage afterwards and ask them (or their roadies if they're lucky) and most of the time they'll have a few with them. I happily give them the €10 or €20 they ask, and leave with that warm fuzzy feeling from knowing that they're actually getting the money... Well, from that and beer