A reminder about filesharing sites

[runequester]

Cd's were supposed to be impossible for consumers to copy. Cheap cd burners and the mp3 shattered all control the industry had

[A1260]

Cd's were supposed to be impossible for consumers to copy. Cheap cd burners and the mp3 shattered all control the industry had

so who made these cd burners so you could rip your cds to wav -> mp3... sony..... so you can say the music industry shattered all control them self...

and by the way acta have been signed and is worse than sopa/pipa, all behind peoples back....

read...
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-01/26/eu-signs-up-to-acta

[XDelusion]

If I were to conspiracy theorize, I'd say they set up this whole debacle was deliberately set up so that "they" would have an excuse to deliver to certain dull minded people to give up their dreams of freedom in exchange for "security".

 Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither. - Benjamin Franklin

 Only seven years ago we made a treaty by which we were assured that the buffalo country should be left to us forever. Now they threaten to take that from us also.
 Strangely enough, they have a mind to till the soil, and the love of possessions is a disease in them. - Chief Sitting Bull

so who made these cd burners so you could rip your cds to wav -> mp3... sony..... so you can say the music industry shattered all control them self...

and by the way acta have been signed and is worse than sopa/pipa, all behind peoples back....

read...
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-01/26/eu-signs-up-to-acta

[jj]

Snap! Glad to see that it isn't just my wife who has issues with replacing CDs into their cases.

 
No my wife does it with cds, dvds and xbox games.
 
I go mad, cds is bad enough, but disks that cost £30 a pop , not good

[jj]

Metallica doesn't get that much.
 
The Grateful Dead was one of the most financially successful bands of all time and they encouraged people to record and trade their live shows, because they knew they would make more money from touring than from record sales.

 
Metallica get much much more than most artists per cd sold,  I have seen it quoted several dollars a sale.

[A1260]

If I were to conspiracy theorize, I'd say they set up this whole debacle was deliberately set up so that "they" would have an excuse to deliver to certain dull minded people to give up their dreams of freedom in exchange for "security".

 Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither. - Benjamin Franklin

 Only seven years ago we made a treaty by which we were assured that the buffalo country should be left to us forever. Now they threaten to take that from us also.
 Strangely enough, they have a mind to till the soil, and the love of possessions is a disease in them. - Chief Sitting Bull

are you drink or something?...

the first cd burner was made in 1988, in the 90's cd burners where everywhere to be bought(including sony selling them)...

acta protesters worldwide.... good to see people wake up...
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/288930/20120127/acta-protest-rally-world.htm

[Einstein]

We can all point our fingers at government agencies and blame them, but everyone who downloads movies and music that they haven't paid for and then decide they're not going to pay for it even if they like it are the ones to blame.

Many of them didn't decide to be poor, the super-rich did. Blame where blame is due!

[Tripitaka]

Many of them didn't decide to be poor, the super-rich did. Blame where blame is due!

Well put. People who steal do it for one of three reasons only:

1: Kleptomania - these people are mentally ill by definition.

2: Poverty, and in a society that continually uses the most advanced subliminal messaging it can in order to make them desire material things the poor could argue that they are brainwashed into the criminal act.

3: Greed - The very thing that drives politicians and bankers to rob us all through the expenses system, financial manipulation and even worse methods. Greed is arguably the biggest problem of them all as it's the one that creates the poverty.

[Tripitaka]

Cd's were supposed to be impossible for consumers to copy. Cheap cd burners and the mp3 shattered all control the industry had

At about £30,000 in the UK for a burner and software when CD's were new it was impossible for consumers to copy. It didn't take long for the prices to drop however. DVD was even quicker and tools like smart ripper even removed the Macrovision (after a certain person on this site, who shall remain nameless told them how to find it)....

..ahh, that brings back some memories.

[Piru]

by the way acta have been signed and is worse than sopa/pipa

However, it hasn't been ratified as of yet. So, it may not be too late. While petitions hardly ever work, there's one to sign: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/

Here are useful links if you want to make a real difference:
https://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/How_to_act_against_ACTA
http://www.edri.org/stopacta#do
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2011/acta:-signed,-not-yet-sealed-now-its-up-to-us

US citizens can also sign this petition: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/please-submit-acta-senate-ratification-required-constitution-trade-agreements/VgZJGZMt

[Tripitaka]

However, it hasn't been ratified as of yet. So, it may not be too late yet. While petitions hardly ever work, there's one to sign: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/

Here are useful links if you want to make a real difference:
https://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/How_to_act_against_ACTA
http://www.edri.org/stopacta#do
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2011/acta:-signed,-not-yet-sealed-now-its-up-to-us

US citizens can also sign this petition: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/please-submit-acta-senate-ratification-required-constitution-trade-agreements/VgZJGZMt

Thanks Piru, signed.

[Matt_H]

Personally, I see software piracy as a marketing/sales problem: instead of asking "How can we get them to stop stealing our stuff?" they should be asking "How can we get them to buy our stuff?"

Point being, this kind of thing is going to happen - these sites are going to come down, be it for legal, business, or hackery reasons. They are not safe for long-term use. Read up about The Archive Team to learn about the importance of institutionalized backups and archiving, and the danger of "the Cloud".

I've seen users here at Amiga.org post files to Megaupload and similar sites: programs they've written, scripts they've created, images they've made, formerly commercial software reclassified as freeware, document scans. All that stuff is lost now. Aminet is our best repository for preserving Amiga goodies.

And that's why you don't use cloud storage for archiving.

[desiv]

It all depends..
Using cloud storage as a backup/archival can work..
Depending on the criticality of the data, the frequency of the need to write/read from that data, and the time required to recreate that data..

If you're storing something like PICs, and it's the ONLY place you are storing those PICs, that's a bad idea.. ;-)

If you are storing a copy of the PICs, then it's not too bad an idea per se..
If, assuming the worst and your data goes POOF, you can just copy them back up to another site, it's not too big a deal...

Cloud can have it's uses...
Just make sure you aren't depending on it always being there...  ;-)

desiv

[Tripitaka]

Ukraine shuts down leading file-sharing site:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/1/ukraine-shuts-down-leading-file-sharing-site/

...The long arm of Microsoft law.

[zipper]

I lost all my Amiga stuff that I wanted to share.

[desiv]

Just noticed this...

People who steal do it for one of three reasons only:

2: Poverty, and in a society that continually uses the most advanced subliminal messaging it can in order to make them desire material things the poor could argue that they are brainwashed into the criminal act.

That's not a "reason," it's an excuse...
Big difference...

And as for brainwashing through subliminal messaging, I don't think so..
If that worked, we'd all be..
...
Sorry, had to run out for a Coke..  Man, that's refreshing....  AH!!!!!!!

desiv