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I thought Natami with 060 was for developers early adopters?. And I to though they were a fair way along with the FPGA CPU. if it's £500-600 quid, i'm out ;(
That's what I thought, too. Moonywolf is going off of the NatAmi site, but I recall from previous discussions that the information there is severely outdated...
C-one and Minimig are what... 300-400 euros?
Even without the 68060, it's still going to be expensive...C-one and Minimig are what... 300-400 euros? Something many times as poweful, with a much bigger FPGA, more memory and 68060(on the first models)... I'll be suprised if it isn't 1000 euros or more(with 060)... Later they will get cheaper, but how much, it remains to be seen.
I want Amiga OS 3.X with the Natami, and i will be glad to buy one up to 400 EUR. It would still be a good price compared to classic hardware.
This. Even 400 EUR (and that's a high estimate, judging by the Minimig cost) would be a bargain compared to what it would cost to get a classic Amiga up to anywhere near the estimated performance, and well within a lot of our budgets for retrocomputing hardware.But I suppose Wolftothemoon can't accept the idea of paying that kind of money for anything that doesn't have an Amiga sticker and slightly-customized case on it...
You wont see NATAMI at that price...Minimig is 160 euros, yes... basic configuration... add 4 MB(68 euros) and ARM controller and it will be around 300 euros.C-one is 333 euros.These are all significantly less powerful computers with smaller FPGAs then Natami.If anything, you should compare it to Atari Firebee(599 euros no VAT), which has a dirt cheap Coldfire and a smaller FPGA, but it is at least comparable in power and add ons. First models with 68060 will be even more expensive.
He's right. The NatAmi will have a much larger FPGA than the MiniMig or even the Retro Replay board. It will probably cost around 750-850 Euros for the prototypes and only after the bugs are worked out will we have a Altera HardCopy version of the FPGA made (assuming that's still the most cost-effective technology for making fixed-functionality chips).
First of all i'm kicking myself waiting for the NatAmi to finally arrive. When it does i am going to buy it without a second thought There has been lots of talk about the hardware of NatAmi but nothing about what it will run on. Which Amiga os would be the most ideal to use? WB3.x - The NatAmi is vastly more powerful than the machines WB3.x was intended for. So i think it would be a shame to use an inferior os that will never realize the NatAmi's potiental. So do we stick with WB3.x or do we look for something else that can take advantage of it's higher performance? I think the worst thing we can do is let Hyperion join in on the NatAmi revolution. They will only trash it with help from Amigainc. They will probably start charging users fees or some other BS. The appeal for me with the upcoming NatAmi is that we can make a fresh start away from Legal BS from the Amiga camp and potientally start a new platform. So maybe A4.x classic wouldn't be a wise choice.I'm also wondering how Morphos would be like running on Natami. This would seem a good idea to me. But maybe the purists would reject it.Aros is unrealistic as a Natami os as the development is too long. The delay it would take would only allow Hyperion to get a headstart. I'm dreaming of switching on my NatAmi and seeing a os load up with NatAmi Workbench 1.2 or 1.3 just like it was 20 odd years ago.I think the NatAmi has great potiental in the future to really shake things up a bit in the divided Amiga community. Especially if they end up selling thousands of them and not just a hundred or two. So what does everyone think?
You forgot multiplechoose, because NatAmi, I think that it will runs OS3.9, OS4.x for Classic and maybe AROS too.
Doesn't OS4.x for Classic require a PPC card?