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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2011, 06:34:58 PM »
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If CUSA really wants to innovate then they should go out of the beaten path of PC clone and build something totally from scratch. How about a Cell based based system with a real parallel OS for starter. The original Amiga was the first home computer with preemptive multitasking why not innovate on that front?

The world doesn't need another PC platform running an emulation layer on top of it, even if that layer is built in the OS itself.

There isn't really a place for another PC but there is a place for a new architecture, one that could revolutionize the world of personal computing.


Are you people listening to what you're saying/writing? A platform from a scratch? Sure... chip in a few billion $, I'll do it, no problem :)
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #90 on: January 11, 2011, 06:57:33 PM »
Maybe if C= and Amiga become popular again they can think about making a computer from scratch.
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #91 on: January 11, 2011, 07:04:32 PM »
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Maybe if C= and Amiga become popular again they can think about making a computer from scratch.


If cusa became popular they could build a new platform...

I don't think we will let them become popular. They made some mistakes with their website, got upset at harrasment, and made some claims that could be seen as potential vapor.

Even if they do things perfectly from here on out some of us won't give them another chance.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #92 on: January 11, 2011, 07:09:08 PM »
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Maybe if C= and Amiga become popular again they can think about making a computer from scratch.


If CUSA would to become wildly popular, and I mean WILDLY, the best thing one could expect is a slightly custom x86 motherboard and/or an ARM license to develop their own cores. But this is pure science fiction, really. Beyond Sci-Fi, really... :)

I don't bother too much with that stuff. I just want to have fun :). And if you want a custom platform, FPGAs are readily available, make your own. :afro:
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #93 on: January 11, 2011, 07:10:50 PM »
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Even if they do things perfectly from here on out some of us won't give them another chance.


Agreed. Worse though was their "cease and desist" letter to OSNews, at least in terms of broader public opinion.

Although I must admit I did laugh hard at the reaction it generated in some of the comments, especially the dissection of the letter's origin.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #94 on: January 11, 2011, 07:12:37 PM »
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If CUSA would to become wildly popular, and I mean WILDLY, the best thing one could expect is a slightly custom x86 motherboard and/or an ARM license to develop their own cores. But this is pure science fiction, really. Beyond Sci-Fi, really... :)
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #95 on: January 11, 2011, 07:12:52 PM »
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If cusa became popular they could build a new platform...

I don't think we will let them become popular. They made some mistakes with their website, got upset at harrasment, and made some claims that could be seen as potential vapor.

Even if they do things perfectly from here on out some of us won't give them another chance.


They are nothing but a pair of shysters, Leo's blatant hasbara in this thread is proof of that.
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #96 on: January 11, 2011, 07:13:58 PM »
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See the problem here... the NEXT GENERATION Amiga. To me, a PPC Amiga running an OS as outdated as OS4 can never be next gen. It has already been tried and it failed for the most part. So it is not really a next generation thing. It's the same generation all over again, just more expensive this time. Time to try something different.
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ok Leo, now you are being a bit ridiculous here.

- OS4.1 has been evolving very nicely ever since that damn court case with the shysters at AI has been resolved.

- THREE new hardware platforms have evolved solely for running AmigaOS4.x and beyond so how can that be a failure....if it werent for the success of the Sam440 then the new Sam460ex would not exist.

- again I must stress that Commodore already tried making off the shelf pc's with their logo on them and guess what...they failed! it was a last ditch effort to try to make some money for the company and they found out the hard way that their loyal customers wanted nothing to do with that farce.

now saying that if CUSA actually make this off the shelf PC much cheaper than the next off the shelf PC then maybe people will buy it BUT i got a guy feeling that AI will want a few shyster pennies for that Amiga sticker on the case so I doubt that will happen
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2011, 07:16:04 PM »
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Maybe if C= and Amiga become popular again they can think about making a computer from scratch.


hilarious comment ! AI can't even make a bloody snow man maker from scratch and make it successful:laughing:
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #98 on: January 11, 2011, 07:17:20 PM »
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Maybe if C= and Amiga become popular again they can think about making a computer from scratch.


Why?
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #99 on: January 11, 2011, 07:17:23 PM »
Yea, pissing off the Amiga people is no big deal since we are a pretty small group and very few of us will probably buy their product. On the other hand sending that letter to OSnews was a really really bad business move.

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Agreed. Worse though was their "cease and desist" letter to OSNews, at least in terms of broader public opinion.

Although I must admit I did laugh hard at the reaction it generated in some of the comments, especially the dissection of the letter's origin.
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #100 on: January 11, 2011, 07:19:48 PM »
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We can all speculate what would of happened if Commodore kept going, but they didn't, what they left is their legacy, and that is what Amiga users around the world have been hacking, pushing, and expanding on over the past 20 years, and will continue to do so, they didn't come all that way just be told, “forget all that and buy a PC called Amiga, and as a treat a have a skinned linux dispro that looks like you antique OS, you crazy fools”.


Very well said. This is exactly the way I feel too.
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #101 on: January 11, 2011, 07:23:05 PM »
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OS4.1 has been evolving very nicely ever since that damn court case with the shysters at AI has been resolved.

What AOS4 or any other amiga-related OS needs is an revolution, not evolution. As long as it is a evolution, it will continue to be an obscure hobby OS.

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THREE new hardware platforms have evolved solely for running AmigaOS4.x and beyond so how can that be a failure....if it werent for the success of the Sam440 then the new Sam460ex would not exist.

And I must say I'm impressed by that, solely beacuse the market is rather small. We'll see how the X1000 will go when it comes.

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- again I must stress that Commodore already tried making off the shelf pc's with their logo on them and guess what...they failed! it was a last ditch effort to try to make some money for the company and they found out the hard way that their loyal customers wanted nothing to do with that farce.

different times today.

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now saying that if CUSA actually make this off the shelf PC much cheaper than the next off the shelf PC then maybe people will buy it BUT i got a guy feeling that AI will want a few shyster pennies for that Amiga sticker on the case so I doubt that will happen

If you think C=USA will be making cheap x86 hardware, then you're mistaken. Actually, there may be few very cheap AIO Commodore models, but the majority of their product line will be for those with slightly deeper pockets. Not obscenely expensive, I think. Afterall, I think if they pull this off together with launching their Linux distro they can demand a slightly higher price in all fairness. I might be mistaken... time will show.
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #102 on: January 11, 2011, 07:25:27 PM »
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Are you people listening to what you're saying/writing? A platform from a scratch? Sure... chip in a few billion $, I'll do it, no problem :)

double face palm !!!....no just put stickers on existing products and then get a 10 year old to modify an existing Linux distro for you:furious:
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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #103 on: January 11, 2011, 07:28:45 PM »
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double face palm !!!....no just put stickers on existing products and then get a 10 year old to modify an existing Linux distro for you:furious:

Let's see

custom cases
custom packaging(thread over at C-A.org)
custom Linux distro(with a possibility of becoming a custom OS in the future)
possible app market

sure seems like a lot of sticker slapping, doesn't it?
 

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Re: What the F***!
« Reply #104 from previous page: January 11, 2011, 07:31:36 PM »
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double face palm !!!....no just put stickers on existing products and then get a 10 year old to modify an existing Linux distro for you:furious:


I prefer paper myself =P

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