What the F***!

[Terminills]

double face palm !!!....no just put stickers on existing products and then get a 10 year old to modify an existing Linux distro for you:furious:

I prefer paper myself =P

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54847

[klx300r]

If you think C=USA will be making cheap x86 hardware, then you're mistaken. Actually, there may be few very cheap AIO Commodore models, but the majority of their product line will be for those with slightly deeper pockets. Not obscenely expensive, I think. Afterall, I think if they pull this off together with launching their Linux distro they can demand a slightly higher price in all fairness. I might be mistaken... time will show.

but if it's more expensive then who's gonna buy it other than Commie & Miggy fanboys...you do realize those guys are already in the modern scene and posting on the very forums you're on right:confused:

[WolfToTheMoon]

but if it's more expensive then who's gonna buy it other than Commie & Miggy fanboys...you do realize those guys are already in the modern scene and posting on the very forums you're on right:confused:

For the millionth time... They are not after the current AOS4/MOS/AROS users. They are after the general Win/Linux/MAC/ex-Amiga users.

if you have a look at C64x comments on various (independent)sites, you'll see that much of the public is very in favour of it. I think they will sell plenty of those. AMIGAs will be aimed at gamers. That's also a big market. AMIGAs will be a harder sell then C64x or cheap Commodore AIOs, but it's possible.

[klx300r]

For the millionth time... They are not after the current AOS4/MOS/AROS users. They are after the general Win/Linux/MAC/ex-Amiga users. ....

& that's my point..to attract 'the others' then they must make it cheaper because only die hard fans will spend more for what you're offering....wait....ahh so now it makes sense...AI finally tries to do something but of course it's not for the community! and again sticks it to the community..thanks for clearing that up for us !

so with the 30 million budget you guys have when are the t-shirts coming

[redrumloa]

Yowsa! I missed an explosion of a thread today! I'm not reading through every page atm, maybe later. I will say I was extremely harsh on Barry at first and I still have my reservations and concerns on a few things. That said, these pictures impress me.

http://commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64Prototype.aspx

I have gone from very pessimistic and ornery to cautiously hopeful. This shows far more than slapping a label on a zPC.

[haywirepc]

Leo, don't you me WE not they?
 
I think with a 30 million dollar budget, just for advertising, we should ALL get free t-shirts, yes even the haters.
 
If their advertising budget is 30 million, I wonder what their sticker budget is. I think they cancelled several earlier planned models because they ran out of commodore stickers.
 
The ceo spent the sticker money on gum that week.
Leo's mom couldn't front him his allowance, so they cancelled those models.
 
Maybe they will have better luck with their 3 new planned "amiga" models.
 
Steven

[klx300r]

Yowsa! I missed an explosion of a thread today! I'm not reading through every page atm, maybe later. I will say I was extremely harsh on Barry at first and I still have my reservations and concerns on a few things. That said, these pictures impress me.

http://commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64Prototype.aspx

I have gone from very pessimistic and ornery to cautiously hopeful. This shows far more than slapping a label on a zPC.

red, you're 128 Tower mod impresses me more:afro:

[Tuxon86]

Let's see

custom cases
custom packaging(thread over at C-A.org)
custom Linux distro(with a possibility of becoming a custom OS in the future)
possible app market

sure seems like a lot of sticker slapping, doesn't it?

Sure it does. It is still a cheap PC clone, nothing more.

And who do you think will buy your system. The only thing that differentiates you from the rest of the clone maker is the Commodore name recognition, and your on your way to piss off your prime customer base, which is us, the one that even remember the Commodore name by the way.

There isn't anything custom about your linux distro. You won't even have the exclusivity of it, since you have to release it to everybody as per the GPL and other open source licensing. People won't buy your clone, they'll just download an iso of your distrib and use it on their standard PC.

[WolfToTheMoon]

& that's my point..to attract 'the others' then they must make it cheaper because only die hard fans will spend more for what you're offering....wait....ahh so now it makes sense...AI finally tries to do something but of course it's not for the community! and again sticks it to the community..thanks for clearing that up for us !

so with the 30 million budget you guys have when are the t-shirts coming

there'a place on the x86 market for both cheap no branded and more expensive branded merchandise. Nobody is saying that it is going to be easy for them, but they have 2 very strong brands and some interesting products. We'll see...

[commodorejohn]

custom cases
custom packaging(thread over at C-A.org)
custom Linux distro(with a possibility of becoming a custom OS in the future)
possible app market

sure seems like a lot of sticker slapping, doesn't it?

Right, so slapping a new bezel on some manufacturer's stock case, putting it in a pretty box, and skinning Linux with something that looks like Workbench makes it a completely different thing than an equivalent-spec PC assembled from components off NewEgg or TigerDirect.

"For my next trick, I'm going to turn this Honda into a Ferrari Testarossa using only a label printer and an airbrush!"

(P.S. how, exactly, are they planning to turn Linux into a "custom OS?")

[redrumloa]

red, you're 128 Tower mod impresses me more:afro:

Thanks a lot, I am quite fond of it :cool:

[WolfToTheMoon]

You know, people... you're pretty funny.

Out there, in the REAL world, hundreds of millions of x86 PCs is being sold every year, both cheap and expensive, yet you're trying to convince me that it is wrong to sell those and that it is a failed concept.

Instead, one should go in a adventure of a completely new platform and/or OS just for the sake of being completely different.

Good... good. Go ahead and try, put your money where your mouth is :lol:

[klx300r]

Right, so slapping a new bezel on some manufacturer's stock case, putting it in a pretty box, and skinning Linux with something that looks like Workbench makes it a completely different thing than an equivalent-spec PC assembled from components off NewEgg or TigerDirect.

"For my next trick, I'm going to turn this Honda into a Ferrari Testarossa using only a label printer and an airbrush!"

excellent analogy! in the early 90's there used to be a guy I know that drove a 'kit car' Fiero to make it look like a 3x8 Ferrari (alla Magnum PI)....sad eh

[commodorejohn]

excellent analogy! in the early 90's there used to be a guy I know that drove a 'kit car' Fiero to make it look like a 3x8 Ferrari (alla Magnum PI)....sad eh

Actually, now that I think about it, I shoulda said a Karmann Ghia - pretty skin, same old Volkswagen innards

Instead, one should go in a adventure of a completely new platform and/or OS just for the sake of being completely different.

Good... good. Go ahead and try, put your money where your mouth is :lol:

You are aware that there are multiple groups doing exactly that, right? And every last one of them has shown as much or more progress as C-USA.

[redrumloa]

Actually, now that I think about it, I shoulda said a Karmann Ghia - pretty skin, same old Volkswagen innards

Hey! Nothing wrong with either Karmann Ghia or VW innards! But that is drifting way ot...:lol:

[haywirepc]

Leo wolf up his moon is funny.
 
By his logic, pc's at all would have failed, since every business was buying mainframes at the time pc's became a "product"
 
Doing what everyone else is doing is never the path to success, its the path to mediocrity.
 
Steven