The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...

[tone007]

You mean FPGA?  What if it really were an actual next generation 68K chip instead?

C-One, Minimig, Natami, C64DTV, all that stuff, not for me.

If it's not an actual oldschool 68k Amiga, I'll use UAE.

I don't see the point of a new 68k based system.

[hceline]

To me the future of Amiga is a fpga with One minimig-aga(or preferably Natami-SAGA if i can get my hands on it)  core, 3x M68k cores (at least) and one Java processor core (ain't expecting anyone to port java to Amiga-M68k any time soon) running Aros-M68k. Just to prove (or not) my age old belief that the Amiga system design is inherently a MP design.:insane:

[orb85750]

C-One, Minimig, Natami, C64DTV, all that stuff, not for me.

If it's not an actual oldschool 68k Amiga, I'll use UAE.

I don't see the point of a new 68k based system.

Some would say that the point is to jump in where Commodore left off and offer further improvements and seamless backward compatibility.  I'm not necessarily saying that PPC was a mistake or that x86 is not a possible future for Amiga.  Rather, I'm interested in seeing how far the 68K can go.  It's all Amiga as far as I'm concerned, but I'm personally most interested in 68K (at this time, anyway).

[nicholas]

Some would say that the point is to jump in where Commodore left off and offer further improvements and seamless backward compatibility.  I'm not necessarily saying that PPC was a mistake or that x86 is not a possible future for Amiga.  Rather, I'm interested in seeing how far the 68K can go.  It's all Amiga as far as I'm concerned, but I'm personally most interested in 68K (at this time, anyway).

Ditto.

68k makes me excited again for the first time in years!

[redfox]

@Franko

I stand on the side of choice.  We have many options available (Classic Amiga, many fine Amiga emulation products, MorphOS, OS4 and AROS).  I think that the future is full of possibilities if we will let them happen.

IMHO, the OS4 vs MorphOS ("red vs blue") struggle was a sad part of our history.  Now the fight for the "true Amiga" has grown to include AROS and Classic and any kind of emulation and PPC vs X86 vs XYZ.

I would like to see an end to the silly trolling and hostilities. Surely there is enough room for all of us.  I'm not saying that we have to agree or use the same system, but at least we should be able to tolerate each other.

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redfox

[Iggy]

@Franko

I stand on the side of choice.  We have many options available (Classic Amiga, many fine Amiga emulation products, MorphOS, OS4 and AROS).  I think that the future is full of possibilities if we will let them happen.

IMHO, the OS4 vs MorphOS ("red vs blue") struggle was a sad part of our history.  Sadly, now the fight for the "true Amiga" has grown to include Classic and AROS and any kind of emulation and PPC vs X86 vs XYZ.

I would like to see an end to the silly trolling and hostilities. Surely there is enough room for all of us.  I'm not saying that we have to agree or use the same system, but at least we should be able to tolerate each other.

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redfox

Very well said. I've been expressing this sentiment for awhile myself. I think having all these options is a positive thing.
And unlike the majority of people voting on the latest poll, I think the Amiga is far from dead.
We're seeing more development now than we have in a long time.
Hopefully with the new FPGA projects and AROS 68K we'll soon see continued development of the original platform on an open basis.
PPC implementations continue to be enhanced and AROS X86 will provide yet another alternative (at a nice low price).

From my point of view, things are going pretty good.

[persia]

Yeah, the Amiga flavours will survive through most of our lifetimes and that's really all that matters.  Indeed there'll always be people playing with retro and re-imagined retro.  Look at amateur radio, in the age of mobile phones in everyone's pocket, amateur radio is growing in popularity.

[Arkhan]

I just think developing new hardware when the old stuff is still present and working is kind of pointless, especially if all you want to do is fire up games from 1987

[Franko]

@Franko

I stand on the side of choice.  We have many options available (Classic Amiga, many fine Amiga emulation products, MorphOS, OS4 and AROS).  I think that the future is full of possibilities if we will let them happen.

IMHO, the OS4 vs MorphOS ("red vs blue") struggle was a sad part of our history.  Now the fight for the "true Amiga" has grown to include AROS and Classic and any kind of emulation and PPC vs X86 vs XYZ.

I would like to see an end to the silly trolling and hostilities. Surely there is enough room for all of us.  I'm not saying that we have to agree or use the same system, but at least we should be able to tolerate each other.

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redfox

@ redfox

Ahh, there's that silly word again "trolling". A pointless word made up by internet geeks and used by those who haven't the maturity or brain power to cope with an exchange of opinions or who don't like what others have to say.

Kinda strange that you claim to "stand on the side of choice" but at the same time you express the view that you would like to see the end of "trolling and hostilities" which in my opinion are actually just different types of people simply expressing their choices and views. I would like to see the use of the word "trolling" as it's nothing more than a lame excuse used by certain people for the reasons I've explained above.

Of course there is room for all of us and no we don't have to agree with each other (it'd be a pretty damn boring world if we all agreed and did the same thing), yes we should tolerate each other but showing tolerance is not done by claiming you stand on the side of choice and then going on to say you would like to see the end of what other folk have to say or what their choices are. That my friend is not tolerance in any shape or form.

[A4000_Mad]

I've been reading through a lot of the old threads here from the early noughties and not even having bothered with the internet until this year I was left feeling a bit dismayed and sad about what seems to have been a huge split and infighting in the Amiga community a number of years ago, mostly with the introduction of OS4 but also MorphOS & Aros Vs so called Classic OS.

I too missed out on all the infighting as it was just me and a couple of mates using our Amigas with no Internet back then. We used to enjoy visiting each other and creating our own floppies with pix, a letter and games on and posting them to each other

It would be great to send ADF files to each to other by E-mail now and unpack them at the other end using ADF-Blitzer. But sadly my Amiga buddy Andy died of CJD (the human form of mad cow disease) and Peter was so upset by Andy's death, he gave up the Amiga

My own Amiga future is to just look after my Amigas and come to this great site. That's about as far ahead as I think. Getting a Cyberstorm PPC for an A4000, running WarpOS and then OS4 was what had been hoping for for years and I've done that now along with many other things like playing original arcade classics with MAME and emulating a Sega Megadrive with AmiGenerator. I'm very happy with how my Amiga world is and just hope everyone else gets along and enjoys their Amigas too

:drink:

[lsmart]

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Ahh, there's that silly word again "trolling". A pointless word made up by internet geeks and used by those who haven't the maturity or brain power to cope with an exchange of opinions or who don't like what others have to say.

Exchange of opinions, eh? So how do you call someone who stops his car in the middle of the M8, gets out, does something obscene, and then gets back into the car, complaining about the noise of all the car-horns?

Yes, some people write what would be the equivalent comment. But maybe this is considered polite in livingston? ;-)

[Franko]

Exchange of opinions, eh? So how do you call someone who stops his car in the middle of the M8, gets out, does something obscene, and then gets back into the car, complaining about the noise of all the car-horns?

Yes, some people write what would be the equivalent comment. But maybe this is considered polite in livingston? ;-)

Well as I've not noticed such an event happening here on this site or experienced it in real life, I can't say what I'd call him...

And yes in Livingston this would be considered as nothing more than someone expressing their views...

But then some of us are more tolerant than others...

[Fats]

@ redfox

Ahh, there's that silly word again "trolling". A pointless word made up by internet geeks and used by those who haven't the maturity or brain power to cope with an exchange of opinions or who don't like what others have to say.

There is a clear difference between exchange of opinion and 'trolling'. Some people seem to have the idea that they can throw away all forms of politeness when discussing on an Internet forum. They even make it personal by using words like fanboy, nazi, smoking crack, ...

greets,
Staf.

[Franko]

There is a clear difference between exchange of opinion and 'trolling'. Some people seem to have the idea that they can throw away all forms of politeness when discussing on an Internet forum. They even make it personal by using words like fanboy, nazi, smoking crack, ...

greets,
Staf.

While I don't myself use the terms you have mentioned It doesn't bother me when someone does, after all it's not like the person actually knows you personally or that it even matters what someone tapping away on a keyboard elsewhere in the world has to say about you, when they have no idea what your really like as a person.

It's nothing more than a passtime, if you choose to get involved in online conversations then you should take into account that everyone is different and what may offend one person may not offend another.

We all have the freedom of choice to ignore what someone else has to say or to take part and express our own individual view but at the end of day does it really matter what someone you probably don't know or will most likely never meet in real life has to say...

[bloodline]

While I don't myself use the terms you have mentioned It doesn't bother me when someone does, after all it's not like the person actually knows you personally or that it even matters what someone tapping away on a keyboard elsewhere in the world has to say about you, when they have no idea what your really like as a person.

It's nothing more than a passtime, if you choose to get involved in online conversations then you should take into account that everyone is different and what may offend one person may not offend another.

We all have the freedom of choice to ignore what someone else has to say or to take part and express our own individual view but at the end of day does it really matter what someone you probably don't know or will most likely never meet in real life has to say...

I apologize in advance for the insensitive nature of this quote but it is most fitting:

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics... Even if you win, you're still retarded."

[Franko]

I apologize in advance for the insensitive nature of this quote but it is most fitting:

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics... Even if you win, you're still retarded."

Erm... not everyone in the Special Olympics is retarded, most only actually have physical disabilities...

So that statement while it might offend some, could easily fit into the retarded class...

But why does debating something when it comes to the Amiga have to be classed as arguing, that what I call retarded thinking...