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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #89 from previous page: November 27, 2010, 08:29:44 PM »
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I just want one of them to get to the stage where I can spend a reasonable chunk of my time using them for the things I like to do (programming in particular)...

Apart from that, it'd be great if we could get to a stage where the new solutions help us get *some* growth again. Getting to even, say, 50k active enthusiast users, would mean a massive difference in terms of having a vibrant community and getting more hardware or new software development / ports.

Compared to ca 5m Amiga's sold or 250m-300m PC's sold *this year alone*, getting a niche platform with the history and recognition of the Amiga to 50k users ought to still be possible, though undoubtably hard.


I'm now of the firm belief that MikeJ's Replay board with AROS 68k is the future of the Amiga.

Everything else is now an "also ran".
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #90 on: November 27, 2010, 08:33:48 PM »
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The Natami looks like a neat system as does the minimig w/ AGA, but these aren't realistic systems for everyday use.

I'm not so sure that Natami couldn't be a decent machine for everyday use.  What essentials would it be missing if all goes as planned?
 

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #91 on: November 27, 2010, 08:36:21 PM »
Amiga, especially ng amiga will always be a small niche. Sometimes thats cool though, because I kind of like it when even linux nerds come to my house and marvel at my aros machine...
 
I think OS4's chances of doing anything keep getting smaller and smaller.
 
I'm hoping to get a morphos mac from santa claus, we'll see. In the meantime I get more and more excited by aros...
 
1) UAE integration 2) Catweasel support 3) Draggable screens...
4) Supports my 3.0GHZ intel processor pc - ITS VERY FAST.
 
To me, Aros is just the logical way to go because it supports amiga floppies, all old games and amiga apps (for the most part) run...
 
MorphOS from what I have seen is more advanced. You can browse better, watch youtube. I'm hopeful AROS browser will catch up fast.
 
AOS4 is a dead end to me, I'm not paying 800$ for a computer with speeds from 10 years ago, no matter how much I like the os, or the name amiga. What is an amiga? To me its a computer that works like the old amiga, but allows for modern things, thats it. I don't care much for the name arguments, so long as it works how I remember and runs everything, I'm happy. AROS is probably the best path forward in my view, because it can't be killed by a few people controlling it....
 
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #92 on: November 27, 2010, 09:08:23 PM »
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I'm now of the firm belief that MikeJ's Replay board with AROS 68k is the future of the Amiga.

Everything else is now an "also ran".


Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #93 on: November 27, 2010, 09:10:59 PM »
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Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.


Nah... your both completely wrong... so I have to disagree with that... :)
 

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #94 on: November 27, 2010, 09:12:32 PM »
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Nah... your both completely wrong... so I have to disagree with that... :)


Well, then you would be wrong... it really is that simple... ;)

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #95 on: November 27, 2010, 09:16:59 PM »
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Well, then you would be wrong... it really is that simple... ;)


Yeah but on the other hand I could be right as well as simple... :p
 

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #96 on: November 27, 2010, 09:22:26 PM »
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Yeah but on the other hand I could be right as well as simple... :p
I'm not going to dignify that with this response...

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #97 on: November 27, 2010, 09:27:21 PM »
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I'm not going to dignify that with this response...


Couldn't hear you anyway I had me fingers in me ears...

(dignity... I lost that years ago... :lol:)
 

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« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2010, 09:34:45 PM »
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Well, then you would be wrong... it really is that simple... ;)


No "could be" about it. :)
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2010, 09:37:30 PM »
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No "could be" about it. :)


Ok, I'll settle for 'maybe' but I doubt it... :)
 

Offline tone007

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« Reply #100 on: November 27, 2010, 09:41:01 PM »
I'm not looking for a future, I just like playing with the old hardware.

The modern Amiga operating systems (OS4.1, MorphOS, AROS) cannot take the place of Linux/Windows/occasional OSX for me, so while I'm happy to play with them every once in a while and see what new progress they've made, I don't expect I'll ever use any of them seriously.

I have even less interest in new hardware that emulates old hardware.
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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #101 on: November 27, 2010, 10:15:21 PM »
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I'm now of the firm belief that MikeJ's Replay board with AROS 68k is the future of the Amiga.

Everything else is now an "also ran".


Depends on what you're looking for, I guess. As a toy or "classic replacement" it looks great. It'll be too slow for much serious use for anyone used to more modern machines though.

Natami has a better shot there, possibly, since they're more geared for performance, but that too will likely be too slow for most people.

As I've said elsewhere, I want both of them and the X1000, but I suspect main machine will remain an x86 box, though hopefully eventually running AROS most of the time.

Then again, it doesn't really matter if it works for you.

(I'm considering picking up an A1200 too, to actually have a real classic again, and get one of the new ACA accelerators for it, but I suspect sneaking the Replay and X1000 past the wife will be hard enough)
 

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #102 on: November 27, 2010, 10:26:35 PM »
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Then again, it doesn't really matter if it works for you.

(I'm considering picking up an A1200 too, to actually have a real classic again, and get one of the new ACA accelerators for it, but I suspect sneaking the Replay and X1000 past the wife will be hard enough)


That is probably the most sensible thing I've ever read here...:)

(PS:Get a divorce it's well worth the money and you don't have to go sneaking things in the house anymore, it worked for me... :lol:)
 

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Re: The Future Of The Amiga - Where Do You Stand...
« Reply #103 on: November 28, 2010, 12:52:54 AM »
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I have even less interest in new hardware that emulates old hardware.


You mean FPGA?  What if it really were an actual next generation 68K chip instead?
 

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« Reply #104 on: November 28, 2010, 01:04:40 AM »
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You mean FPGA?  What if it really were an actual next generation 68K chip instead?


C-One, Minimig, Natami, C64DTV, all that stuff, not for me.

If it's not an actual oldschool 68k Amiga, I'll use UAE.

I don't see the point of a new 68k based system.
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