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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #104 from previous page: June 21, 2010, 07:04:17 AM »
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winging and complaining about a good piece of hardware isnt going to help anyone.


Phew, so whinging and complaining about crappy, expensive hardware is still okay :)
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #105 on: June 21, 2010, 08:07:01 AM »
Any word on the Xena chipset and its capabilities?  I thought that was supposed to be a major selling point.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #106 on: June 21, 2010, 08:17:14 AM »
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I CANNOT believe you people. WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING IT TO COST $499>?
This is a custom piece of hardware and at the moment THE best piece of kit EVER to come out bearing the Amiga name. And all you guys do is WINGE WINGE WINGE.
Sure not everyone can afford it. BUT its not coming from a major pc manufacturer.
There isnt half a million units rolled out, and its NOT going to come at a loss to the developer.

If you dont like the price DONT BUY IT. winging and complaining about a good piece of hardware isnt going to help anyone. let alone the people trying make this platform a reality.


Sorry but two things:

This piece of hardware isnt an Amiga (amiga is a500, a1200, cd32...) its under the name amigaone.

If people dont like the price they can give an opinion, theres more opinion than yours sorry.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #107 on: June 21, 2010, 08:30:30 AM »
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Unless you are Dell or another company that can churn out thousands of machines, this stuff gets pretty pricey.


IIRC the Pegasos 2 G4 was *never* as expensive as the Sam, despite being so much more powerful, not even when it first was introduced (which was when its price was the highest). Towards the end they put it on sale for $399, and even then it probably included a small profit margin, because Genesi never sold stuff at loss AFAIK.
 
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Is it overpriced even with that in mind? Possibly. I don't know enough to make that decision.


It's a "G2" board. Sure, it's more powerful and expandable than the Efika, and far from being as limited in general, but the Efika at least has the benefit of being *ultra-low-cost*.

If you for some reason have limited yourself to only consider OS4, then a Pegasos2 is a much better buy. Many of the most serious OS4 people/developers already got a Peg2, because of its acknowledged quality, price and performance.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #108 on: June 21, 2010, 08:32:39 AM »
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IIRC the Pegasos 2 G4 was *never* as expensive as the Sam, despite being so much more powerful, not even when it first was introduced (which was when its price was the highest). Towards the end they put it on sale for $399, and even then it probably included a small profit margin, because Genesi never sold stuff at loss AFAIK.

They also sold the Pegasos for non OS4 uses though. Im not sure where the main sales came from. I'd have bought two in a heartbeat for 399 though, thats for sure :)
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #109 on: June 21, 2010, 08:37:38 AM »
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And the comments on the keyboards, just crazy, funny how we sold out, ;).


If that is true, then it is indeed funny. It tells me a lot. Not about the keyboard though...
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #110 on: June 21, 2010, 08:40:06 AM »
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The AmigaOneX1000 will be a very good Amiga


How do you know that?

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but the price is going to be too high for me.


Yeah, and you're hardly alone in this conclusion...
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #111 on: June 21, 2010, 08:43:48 AM »
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Heres a bang for your buck.

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Cool thing!

I have always thought those 5.25" Drive Bay Form Factor designs were cool in a special way. IIRC someone made an Efika cluster in the same manner.

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #112 on: June 21, 2010, 09:38:07 AM »
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I CANNOT believe you people. WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING IT TO COST $499>?

The Pegasos2 MB was sold at that price AFAIK.

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This is a custom piece of hardware and at the moment THE best piece of kit EVER to come out bearing the Amiga name.

No, not Amiga name, AMIGAONE (running an OS not called Amiga OS, but AmigaOS4)

If trademarks is that important to you, at least try to get them right.

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And all you guys do is WINGE WINGE WINGE.
Sure not everyone can afford it. BUT its not coming from a major pc manufacturer.
There isnt half a million units rolled out, and its NOT going to come at a loss to the developer.


Please quit making excuses on other people's behalf.

When Genesi was developing the Quad Core G5 board, they shelved it at some point, because it would end up being much too expensive, not many would buy it, so there was no point. And that was a long time ago, it would still have been cheaper than the "X1000", and the "X1000" isn't exactly Quad Core G5...

Look, *I know* that no new HW can compete with cheap second hand gear that people more or less throw after you as you go by at the local flee market, but the "X1000" price is nothing short of insane. And it's a hobby after all, nothing more. What most people are interested in, is simply tinkering with the environment they like, run the apps they are fond of, etc. That's the essence, and this is the reason to why the MorphOS team has chosen to support the eMac, *it's dead cheap*, it's *perfect* for the Hobbyist wanting to try out MorphOS without investing a fortune! It's a very clever decision, nobody can argue with this. It's all about Hyperion's decision vs. the MorphOS teams' decision. Who do you think made the most clever one?

It's a hobby, and with this in mind, and provided that...

1) You want the very best available *miga OS to tinker with
2) You don't mind buying second hand gear

...this is what you can have to play with instead of taking out a second mortgage on your house to buy *one single* "X1000":



This first one is a complete MorphOS enabled system, with registered keyfile and all, this is the one you'll use. But you are anxious about "but ... but ... it doesn't come with a 2 year warranty", so you buy some spare HW and store it in your garage, just in case:



So if that first system breaks down, you can ask the MorphOS team to transfer your key file to the next in line, and then the next, etc. Please note that you are still below the price for a single "X1000".

OR, if you want as many *MorphOS registered systems* as possible, you can have this many:



Each and every one of these will be complete 1.25GHz systems (runs circles around any Sam), with fully registered MorphOS, ready to go. I've seen Internet Cafés with less machines than this.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2010, 09:48:43 AM »
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Pretty rude from an unpaying advertiser who likes to spam the forum.


I was'nt being rude and im not an unpaying advertiser who likes to spam forums. Please point me to any posts where I have spammed the forums.

I think your confusing me with someone else.

I wont be posting any more, I seem to remember why I never post here.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2010, 10:08:14 AM »
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The Pegasos2 MB was sold at that price AFAIK.


The Peg2 was a decent system at a reasonable price (by amiga hardware standards).

Why did they stop making it?
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2010, 10:11:15 AM »


Anybody want some?
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2010, 10:26:04 AM »
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Sorry but two things:

This piece of hardware isnt an Amiga (amiga is a500, a1200, cd32...) its under the name amigaone.

If people dont like the price they can give an opinion, theres more opinion than yours sorry.
Mighty wrong.
The models you named are old products made by the company that happened to have the ball at the time, Commodore, which by the way, got the ball by paying money to get that stuff from Miner/Morse company.

That company happened to fail, and they sold to Escom than to Gateway than to Amiga Inc (simplifying) the latter is the actual owners of the ball and they decide what's what.

A few years ago they decided to divide their new Amiga products in 2 lines, their "De/Anywhere" ideas, and a more classic rendition of the platform AmigaOS running on computers called AmigaOne.

After a series of distputes they handed the second part to Hyperion in last september settlement, so these are official Amiga next generation projects (as opposed to the abandoned retro computers you mentioned).

If you have proof such as (legal documents) prooving otherwise I will be happy to take a look at them.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2010, 10:30:44 AM »
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The Peg2 was a decent system at a reasonable price (by amiga hardware standards).

Why did they stop making it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive was a major contributing factor I believe.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2010, 10:32:02 AM »
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After a series of distputes they handed the second part to Hyperion in last september settlement

As far as I can read not all rights were transferred.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2010, 10:33:34 AM »
TMHM

By the way, they can call it Amiga OS it's in the settlement, so you might very well see Amiga OS 5 as their next major iteration (think of how that will make you nervous :lol:)

As for your usual I buy 2 million emacs, go on, I suggest you open a money savvy business in a third world country, as for what's better, ensuring some dignity to Amiga with HW specifically done for it, is the way to go, as it will lead to good things in the future.