The X1000 will be > $2,225

[DAX]

TMHM

By the way, they can call it Amiga OS it's in the settlement, so you might very well see Amiga OS 5 as their next major iteration (think of how that will make you nervous :lol:)

As for your usual I buy 2 million emacs, go on, I suggest you open a money savvy business in a third world country, as for what's better, ensuring some dignity to Amiga with HW specifically done for it, is the way to go, as it will lead to good things in the future.

[takemehomegrandma]

The Peg2 was a decent system at a reasonable price (by amiga hardware standards).

It was.

Why did they stop making it?

Because the European Union introduced the RoHS directive for environmental reasons, meaning that the board would require a major redesign, and since the board already had aged a few years, they dropped it instead.

Genesi were at the time considering various other "Desktop" options based on other CPU's, but eventually they went for the "Netbook" and "Nettop" niches. First by the PPC based designs most known as "LimePC"/"Cherrypal", but now they are wholly focused on ARM designs: the Efika MX Smartbook and the Efika MX Open Client.

Mass produced, and if everything goes as planned, it should go on sale this month AFAIK!

[koaftder]

It was.
Because the European Union introduced the RoHS directive for environmental reasons, meaning that the board would require a major redesign, and since the board already had aged a few years, they dropped it instead.

That's a load of shit. ROHS had nothing to do with that.

[DAX]

As far as I can read not all rights were transferred.

I did't say Hyperion is now AmigaInc, just that the second part of their business plan (classic rendition of the platform as AmigaOne+AmigaOS) has been legally handed over to Hyperion.

[Firedawg]

I was'nt being rude and im not an unpaying advertiser who likes to spam forums. Please point me to any posts where I have spammed the forums.

I think your confusing me with someone else.

I wont be posting any more, I seem to remember why I never post here.

@red

Not sure where your statement is coming from about Follett, but maybe a change to a decaffeinated brand of coffee may help. :roflmao:

@the amiga community, if you have an invested interest with some skin in the game with this X1000 HW push then I can understand the concern.  But, for most I see it as an opportunity to vent your frustration out on it and others.:furious: I think we can objectively look at this project and intelligently discern good from bad without burning each other in the process.  

Ok, I will be quiet now...........

The Dawg

[Karlos]

Because the European Union introduced the RoHS directive for environmental reasons, meaning that the board would require a major redesign, and since the board already had aged a few years, they dropped it instead.

Surely RoHS compliance required only a change to the materials used in the PCB itself and using lead free solder rather than any electronic redesign. Which, assuming board production was outsourced anyway, should not have really been much of a problem regardless.

[Piru]

Surely RoHS compliance required only a change to the materials used in the PCB itself and using lead free solder rather than any electronic redesign.

Nope, it would have required massive redesign. Many of the components were no longer available or weren't available as RoHS.

Which, assuming board production was outsourced anyway, should not have really been much of a problem regardless.

It wasn't outsourced, the production happened at b-plan gmbh (DCE production lines afaik, basically the source of all phase5 boards as well).
Some video http://www.bplan-gmbh.org/news/april.mov

[Kronos]

RoHS is also valid for the solder-balls on BGA parts (and the parts themselves), there is one problem as some parts used in the Pegasos were quite old (like the VIA-SB).

Even something as simple as an edge-connector can be non-RoHS.

[ElPolloDiabl]

First by the PPC based designs most known as "LimePC"/"Cherrypal", but now they are wholly focused on ARM designs: the Efika MX Smartbook and the Efika MX Open Client.

Mass produced, and if everything goes as planned, it should go on sale this month AFAIK!

I like this idea a lot. Amiga should try and push into new markets instead of stagnating. I'll give this board some serious consideration. Can you start a new thread on it? First thing I want to know is what are your options for net connectivity.

[roomeo]

Too expensive... And it has nothing to do with Amiga as we knew it.. So why bother?
Please explain...

[mikeymike]

Hmm, no responses on the Xena chipset question, and surprisingly The Register seems to have answered my question first:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/21/amiga_x1000/

[tokyoracer]

Too expensive... And it has nothing to do with Amiga as we knew it.. So why bother?
Please explain...

I have to agree, still it's no worse for RISC OS lovers in the Price to Performance ratio but is still way too much for something that is very PeeCee'ish.
Might aswell spend that on the mother of all Amiga's with upgrades so you have a genuine setup rather then something with a boing ball on it with a pricetag to match. Maybe im missing the point...

[DAX]

@tokyoracer
I wrote this in another thread but it seems quite fit here as well: OCS/AGA by 1992 were nothing special anymore, J Miner himself  replyed to a question in an interview (at the A4000 launch) that for pro apps on his 2 A2000s he needed RTG cards and  couldn't understand why they didn't do anything like it in the A4000.  AAA was admitted as being too little too late by many Commodore engineers, who also wrote a long paper as to how Amiga would develop  after AAA, and if you read it you will see the X1000 is what they  describe (I kid you not).

This is as "different" as it gets for todays standards, times where GPUs are everything (or are becoming so), and quite frankly even if Commodore would still be alive there would be no Amiga "as you remember it" if that amiga is the 1985 raster graphics console (then made computer). Time changes, ces't la vie.

[ferrellsl]

That's a ridiculous high price for a system that doesn't even offer a stable web browser or an office suite.  This is just another example of how fanatical Amiga users get "gouged".  And next someone will point out that the Friedens are working on Timberwolf.  Who cares?!  $2225+ just to surf the web using an alpha version of Firefox?  You've got to be kidding.

If the X1000 acutally had a robust software base and could do some serious work that justifies its high price, it might be commercially successful.  Hyperion and A-Eon are just forging a much smaller niche for an already microscopic user base.

[roomeo]

As long as its not compatible with classics. Its not of any interest..
They should have gone the Natami way.

Maybe im just very pesimistic here.. Sorry..

[ferrellsl]

@mikeymike

The article you reference speaks of an OpenOffice port for the X1000.  Is this something "official" or just another rumor.  I can't find anything that states that Hyperion is working on an OpenOffice port.  Just a vague statement from Trevor Dickinson on the Obligement web site that it's being ported as a "Lite" version or a version for "kids".  $2225 for a system with a crippled version of Open Office and an an alpha version of Firefox is a joke.  Why would anyone pay good money for that?.....PT Barnum was right.  There's a sucker born every minute.