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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2010, 03:37:46 PM »
My first 486 cost £1500, it was an IBM Blue Lightning and it ran Doom like s*** off a shovel. Fast! Having said that, all PCs cost silly cash back then. I got an Amiga1200 the same year for £350 and both of them claimed an equal amount of my time. I enjoyed them both and I still have the A1200. Back then however was a very different time.
Roll on to 2010 and we see the Acer Aspire Revo R3600 at £215. A very nice Atom/NVidia combo for the money. We also have a credit crunch sqeezing our wallets.
Given the above I just can't justify £1500. IMHO I would rather have seen Hyperion putting cash into Pegasos and maybe getting a PEG III to market. I know that's not going to happen but I wish it would.
The SAM systems look far better value and the Natami still has my interest. Morph OS is also looking stronger now and with EMac support, well let's face it, a SAM and an EMac added together cost less than £1500.
I also think that maybe Hyperion missed the boat with the rise of the slate. A SAM plus touchscreen could have been worthwhile if done right (with flash and Photogenics for a start). As for the keyboard, yuck! The A4000 keyboard was pure elegance and still shines in my eyes. This X1000 thing looks way cheap.
I wish Hyperion luck and if I win the lottery I'll get an X1000 anyway but in my current financial state I think finding a PEG II looks like a better option.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #75 on: June 20, 2010, 04:07:12 PM »
I'm afriad that I'm in the "way to damn expensive" camp here. I understand that low production run on niche harware is really expensive to produce but, wow!. Nobody is going to buy this except for the hardcore OS4 users.

I already thought that the Sam boards were too expensive....
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #76 on: June 20, 2010, 04:16:03 PM »
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Big mistake have an alien boing ball mark there. Real Amiga keyboards had an italic "A" and/or C=. And it is not even Amiga branded but some obscure AmigaOne brand.

If they made proper Amiga keyboards I would happily by one for my Mac.


Yeah, I would be interested in a new, *proper* Amiga keyboard (USB) as well. These keyboards I already have half a dozen of.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #77 on: June 20, 2010, 05:11:59 PM »
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The keyboard is a flimsy looking el cheapo one. The "amigaone" decal looks like some rubbery thing that has adhesive for attaching. Many companies use these to "brand" their products, such as no-name chinese laptops. It looks cheesy.

The "boing" keys look out of place. What happened to the amiga A mark anyway?
Well, it's no logitech £80 monster, but i don't buy those for my pc, and this one still manages to avoid reminding me they don't make keyboards for the system I use (they actually do now) and so if I want I am not forced to use apple or ms ones with windows logos.
In any case the others work on the X1000 as well, choice is good.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #78 on: June 20, 2010, 05:13:51 PM »
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Big mistake have an alien boing ball mark there. Real Amiga keyboards had an italic "A" and/or C=. And it is not even Amiga branded but some obscure AmigaOne brand.

If they made proper Amiga keyboards I would happily by one for my Mac.
If you want i have a spare one here for the A2000, they work with adapters...
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2010, 05:36:26 PM »
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If you want i have a spare one here for the A2000, they work with adapters...


I think there is a real market for quality "A" USB keyboards and mice.  There is no reason why Hyperion or one of their licensees (or AI for that matter) couldn't make reasonable money on selling them.  They need to stop going for the high hanging fruit and sell the low hanging fruit that is easiest to pick.  But it's awfully hard to tell a bunch of elitist that they can make money via volume sales vs their high end products with a nano size market potential.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2010, 06:31:54 PM »
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Nice the see the rumour mill in full motion. Lets all wait an see.

Trevor Dick is starting rumors, is that what you are saying :confused:
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2010, 07:53:52 PM »
Wow how disappointing.  Thats waaaayyyy too much money for me and I was hoping to get a new miggy.  Well guess i will keep using my original miggys.  For that price and if i felt i needed a top of mark new miggy I would have to buy a new PC and put Amiga Forever on it then.  Good luck with those prices and actually making any money off what sales you do get.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2010, 08:32:04 PM »
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who is the target audience?


And this right here folks, is where the problem is.

It's too expensive for the hobby market, and completely outclassed by pro workstation/gaming laptops in the same price bracket.

I'm sure Trevor is a nice guy and everything I read about him suggests that. But I really think he has failed to do his homework on this one.

There was a fella that came on here a few months back regarding a possible PPC based system, he ran for the hills when he actually went out and made enquiries about a potential market for the product, even if it offered PPC Linux that wasn't nearly enough of a draw for folk.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2010, 08:54:31 PM »
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Nice the see the rumour mill in full motion. Lets all wait an see.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=31869&forum=33&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0#566219

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No confusion about the price at all.

Amiga1Productions YouTube  video allows you to see the answer yourself;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EaSN3IuZII

at  5:20 into the video the exchange ls;

Question : "How much is it  gonna cost?"
Answer : "I dunno, I really don't know. It's gonna be  north of £1,500. Definatly. It can't be any cheaper"
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2010, 09:30:41 PM »
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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=31869&forum=33&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0#566219


Have these two ever worked for Accenture, they smell like Accenture, that or Crapita.....

Its "Added Value" by the sounds of their patter....not an Amiga. Just that video alone has said to me.....steer clear....My Capri is safe for now. Note AEON, must try harder !
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2010, 09:38:19 PM »
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Have these two ever worked for Accenture, they smell like Accenture, that or Crapita.....

Its "Added Value" by the sounds of their patter....not an Amiga. Just that video alone has said to me.....steer clear....My Capri is safe for now. Note AEON, must try harder !


I will say one thing.....I don't disagree with the limited vertical market the X1000 is going into. It needs a reputation before it can go any larger and cheaper.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #86 on: June 20, 2010, 09:51:05 PM »
Its not like there's NO cheaper machine possible. There's a new SAM coming out as well for more of an affordable machine, and there's the existing ones as well.
 
They've been clear about that from the beginning
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2010, 10:31:22 PM »
I suppose one good thing about the price is it may prevent people stockpiling Amigas.

Those original A1, SAM and Peg users may put their old machine on the market in order to raise funds for the X1000.

That would be win win in my book.  More users all round.

From a personal point of view I've got the money for the X1000 and have never used OS4.  So it will probably be my first OS4 machine.  However, though I have the money, I don't have the space for it at the moment, and not sure when I will!
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2010, 10:42:21 PM »
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Its not like there's NO cheaper machine possible. There's a new SAM coming out as well for more of an affordable machine, and there's the existing ones as well.


Sure, then we go from an *absolutely insane price* to "very expensive", especially considering the poor performance the Sam offers (*lousy* bang for the buck ratio).
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #89 from previous page: June 20, 2010, 11:03:27 PM »
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Sure, then we go from an *absolutely insane price* to "very expensive", especially considering the poor performance the Sam offers (*lousy* bang for the buck ratio).

Very expensive but affordable. Unless you are Dell or another company that can churn out thousands of machines, this stuff gets pretty pricey.
Is it overpriced even with that in mind? Possibly. I don't know enough to make that decision.
 
All I know is whether or not something is within the price range I can afford and justify to myself.