Will there every be another computer like the amiga?

[persia]

Don't know if you can turn off the accelerometer without jailbreaking. There's a Cydia app called RotationInhibitor, but you can't load Cydia apps without jailbreak.

Reminds me, can one turn off the automated screen rotation? Without jailbreaking it, that is?

[kolla]

Oh yeah, Did you know that NTs design was based on VMS as well as OS/2?

Naturally, since many of the same people were involved.

And they stole the TCP/IP stack from BSD.

How do one steal from BSD? :hammer:

[Ami_GFX]

The avarige 2005 PC can't even run xp any more. When I was running my celeron/512mb system I wanted to cut my dick off every time I tried to open a word processor and firefox at the same time. it's weird how the system requirements for Xp are 128mb ram, but it uses just under 350 on first boot. No weird load-on-startup programs installed, theming turned off.

sloooooow

Oh yeah, Did you know that NTs design was based on VMS as well as OS/2? And they stole the TCP/IP stack from BSD.

Xp memory use went up with each service pack. The system took up around 128mbs in 2001 but you needed 256 to actually run anything and not die of impatience. Service pack 2 upped the anti to around 200mb for the system and so you needed a 512mb machine to do anything. I am writing this on a late 2003 xp pro laptop and it takes 305mbs for the system. No problem with 1.25gb of memory. After just checking, 2 web browsers are using 325mbs between them. 512mb just won't do it in the modern world. Xp is still usable but just barely so at 512mb.

And my A4000 is just so happy with 80mb. So much the world has changed.

[Hell Labs]

How do one steal from BSD? :hammer:

They weren't exactly shouting from the rooftops "hey! we suck so much at network software, we had to use this instead of making our own!" In fact i'm not sure that, as a company they acknowledge the use of BSD code at all.

[stefcep2]

Xp memory use went up with each service pack. The system took up around 128mbs in 2001 but you needed 256 to actually run anything and not die of impatience. Service pack 2 upped the anti to around 200mb for the system and so you needed a 512mb machine to do anything. I am writing this on a late 2003 xp pro laptop and it takes 305mbs for the system. No problem with 1.25gb of memory. After just checking, 2 web browsers are using 325mbs between them. 512mb just won't do it in the modern world. Xp is still usable but just barely so at 512mb.

And my A4000 is just so happy with 80mb. So much the world has changed.

And to think I have the encyclopedia brittanica text and pictures on one 640 MB CD ROM.

How can a 2 web browsers and a gui OS need the equivalent amount as an encyclopedia?

[Hell Labs]

shitty coding and useless features.

To be honest if the software industry (except games) stopped in 1995, nothing of any importance would be lost.

[Ami_GFX]

And to think I have the encyclopedia brittanica text and pictures on one 640 MB CD ROM.

How can a 2 web browsers and a gui OS need the equivalent amount as an encyclopedia?

Efficient use of memory is not a windows specialty. Nor is OSX that much better. I had an OSX machine for a while and I found that applications seemed to hold onto memory after you had quit so it could be only be run a few days without serious slowdowns--the free memory just got less and less even though I wasn't running that much. Windows does a little better but it is still a good idea to shut down the machine and reset it after 10 days or so.

[koaftder]

It was about the same as this level of rage. There's a point where you just want to break everything, all at once.

If you get to the point of rage like the guy in the video you posted:



You have serious issues. This dude tried to shove a remote up his ass over his mom canceling his WOW account, but that's not nearly as bad as cutting your dick off over win XP.

[the_leander]

PPC vs X86 has been basically outlined here, I think I will stick w/ PPC thank you very much, no more talk of that.

I genuinely don't care. For me, a computer is a tool only. If a given computer cannot do what I demand of it, I find something that can (be it a software or hardware solution). That is all. Advocacy based on processor lineages to me is somewhat pointless since my particular OS of choice runs on just about all of them.

As for calling me 12 years old with the Microshaft name calling,

I asked if you were 12 because that sort of petty name calling is what I would expect from a 12 year old.

Act your age, not your shoe size.

my Chief IT Officer uncle of CAT4 uses it and he shares my feelings with windows and he uses those terms all the time.

See above.

Don't try to speak english if you know you can't comprehend a native speaker's terms,

I fully understand the terms, what with being a native speaker myself.

PROTIP: If you're going to make a pedantic argument, do so only after checking your own grammar - English is a name and as such always starts with a capital letter.

And don't tell me I could've used windows better or managed it better

I never brought this up, but now that you mention it yes, I will. For starters you could have not been a pirate. Frankly that you chose that route I hold absolutely no sympathy for you at all.

its an inferior design stolen from IBM OS/2 and implemented just as poorly

And that legitimises your incompetence and theft how?

If MS actually cared about its customers, they'd release XP for free and prior 9x releases instead of forcing you to upgrade.

What, you mean like older versions of OSX are free?

The Powermac G3, for example was made in 1999 and was supported until 2007 Leopard, the average 2005 PC can't run 7 without extensive stripping down of it (MS unsupported)

Of course what you neglect to mention is that same G3 system would have to have maxxed out its ram and likely have required an upgrade or two in the mean time of its graphics card in order to get anything approaching usable. Works both ways old bean.

[ElPolloDiabl]

This thread is going on and on about Windows vs Mac. Check the title, I believe it mentions Amiga.


Also, I would have a software solution first, let people try out your new Amiga system before they invest in hardware.

[the_leander]

Also, I would have a software solution first, let people try out your new Amiga system before they invest in hardware.

Theres an app for that. :lol:

[koaftder]

This thread is going on and on about Windows vs Mac. Check the title, I believe it mentions Amiga.
.

Kind of sucks really. I like Mac, Windows, Linux and Amiga. I use 'em all and I suspect most of us are kind of OS agnostic in this regard.

[Ami_GFX]

Yes a lot of us are just technoids and knowledgable about computers and have been using them for a long time. I've actually found this thread amusing reading on a cold and snowy day. Amigans see the PC and Mac from a different perspective, especially us oldtimers who lived through the evolution of the whole thing. Yes were digressing from the Amiga but it's an interesting digression.

[dreamcast270mhz]

Some of those terms were directed at someone else, the leander so please don't take much of those personally at you. The asking about me being twelve stuff was you the rest was directed at Paolone, the last few were just general arguements.

I have decided to state my stance one last time, then stop hijacking this thread.

I like all OSes but Windows, I support ReactOS in its goals to improve it and help topple it.

I don't care for x86 based on lineage, but the fact that many of the CPUs and mobos for it are garbage and to get anything lasting you need to fork over a price like Apples premiums and that won't last 10 years, plus a PPC mac is dirt cheap and fast and cleanly designed.

I am hereby stopping the debate I helped to kindle, if anyone wishes to continue it, lets make a new thread.


We can all conclude that nothing will be quite like the Amiga, but the x1000 is an expensive and risky venture for A-EON and Hyperion. MOS is working on the PPC macs, and AROS is going x86 and PPC at once (and will probably need to speed up development to keep up)

[the_leander]

Some of those terms were directed at someone else

It's generally considered good etiquette to quote who you are responding to, or failing that @.

the leander so please don't take much of those personally at you.

I didn't, I thought I'd made it clear too in the last post... Never mind.

I don't care for x86 based on lineage, but the fact that many of the CPUs and mobos for it are garbage and to get anything lasting you need to fork over a price like Apples premiums and that won't last 10 years, plus a PPC mac is dirt cheap and fast and cleanly designed.

At the time, those PPC Macs came at a truly staggering premium. If you pay that sort of cash out I'd expect them to last a good long while. With the exception of Celeron/Duron based systems the CPUs on the PC side were fairly decent. Mobos... Well you get what you pay for. But the main killer for cheap PCs were low amounts of ram and cheap and nasty PSU's (E-machines and Compaq I'm looking at you).

As with anything, you get what you pay for.

We can all conclude that nothing will be quite like the Amiga

I agree here - the market back then was more or less virgin, now it is saturated and mature.

but the x1000 is an expensive and risky venture for A-EON and Hyperion.

I would go so far to say doomed. Even ignoring the whole PPC/X86 price performance issues, lack of software etc. We're in the middle of the largest recession since the Great Depression. Bringing out a premium and highly niche product like the X1000 seems to me to be the height of folly.

[persia]

Probably a typo.

This thread is going on and on about Windows vs Mac. Check the title, I believe it mentions Amiga.


Also, I would have a software solution first, let people try out your new Amiga system before they invest in hardware.