Will there every be another computer like the amiga?

[runequester]

I love how the iphone gets trotted out as an argument that the Mac OS is locked down..

[Hell Labs]

I love how the iphone gets trotted out as an argument that the Mac OS is locked down..

Really it's just more evidence that anti-apple zelots don't really know anything about them in the slightest.

[bloodline]

For me the iPhone is the "new Amiga"... It is a cheap powerful computing platform, with rich multimedia capibility... It also redefined the Market in its own image and perhaps most importantly you can easily write your own apps for it... It fills the Amiga shaped hole that I had in my life for the past 10years.

[Belial6]

To me, the iPhone is more like the new classic Mac.  Does some things well, is advertised REALLY well.  Has some massively glaring faults.  Has a dedicated following.  And will likely still be around in a decade.

Of course that puts the Android as the PC.  Not quite as good or polished yet.  Far more open.  Hardware produced by a ton of companies.  Improving at a dramatically faster rate than Apple, and destined to be the 90% market compared to apples 10% market.

Nokia and Palm seem to be the Atari and Amiga of the smart phone story.  I haven't used either, but from the sounds of it, they are superior to their competition in hardware, and what software they do have, but they just don't seem to be able to get enough mind share to really compete.  Those that have them love them, but the software selections are limited due to small market share.

[kolla]

For me, the iPhone is primarily a money-making machine for Apple.
As a product I don't grasp it, I use one every now and then, but I just don't see what's so great about it. Just a few days ago I get frustrated as I could not change equalizer settings ad-hoc while listening to youtube or "ipod" - due to lack of multitasking I could not go to the sound prefs where equalizer settings are, without the ipod/browser apps exiting - also there are no manual settings, just a long list of predefined settings with more or less meaningless names - ridiculous. The mail reader is just rubbish compared to what I'm used to on phone, and third party IbisMail wasn't that much better. The input method of typing with finger on a virtual keyboard is just too slow and clumsy, every time I use it I long back to stylus on SE phones, where I can type without even looking at the device. And how do I change to a different charset anyways? And the list of other obvious shortcomings is long and well known.

[trekiej]

Could we just go with a new platform and let Amiga be Amiga.

[koaftder]

I have an iPod touch and I only use it as a portable web browser. All I ever wanted and it was relatively cheap. I can check my mail when I'm on the toilet, read stupid crap on the internet when I'm laying in bed.

[kolla]

... read stupid crap on the internet when I'm laying in bed.

Reminds me, can one turn off the automated screen rotation? Without jailbreaking it, that is?

[kolla]

Really it's just more evidence that anti-apple zelots don't really know anything about them in the slightest.

I would be one of them, and I bet I have more apple products than you

[koaftder]

Reminds me, can one turn off the automated screen rotation? Without jailbreaking it, that is?

I hate that, it drives me up the wall. I don't know of any way to fix the layout. As far as I'm concerned it should always be in landscape mode, can't use the keyboard for anything in portrait mode.

[Hell Labs]

I would be one of them, and I bet I have more apple products than you

Meh. I think between 76-85 and 98-04 apple were incredibly awesome. 85-98 was nothing but money grabbing because the people in charge didn't "know" computers, and 98-04 they pulled a finger out of their arses. Right now though, the hardware is boring, both archectuarly and athstetically, and the advertisements piss me right off. I'm not so sure they're giving the Macintosh the attention it deserves right now. But then again if it was up to me, everything after system 6 would have been done completely different. pre-emptive multitasking MacOS... God. I need to win the lottery. How much do you recon the rights to the old mac os are worth?

[dreamcast270mhz]

PPC vs X86 has been basically outlined here, I think I will stick w/ PPC thank you very much, no more talk of that. As for calling me 12 years old with the Microshaft name calling, my Chief IT Officer uncle of CAT4 uses it and he shares my feelings with windows and he uses those terms all the time.

Don't try to speak english if you know you can't comprehend a native speaker's terms, Hell Labs is right in saying that some of my reasons have nothing to do with disc copying, remember my post is much more broad than that.

 And don't tell me I could've used windows better or managed it better, its an inferior design stolen from IBM OS/2 and implemented just as poorly, tell me when Bill Gates stops adding useless APIs and system locks and a fancy GUI update that makes it look new. If MS actually cared about its customers, they'd release XP for free and prior 9x releases instead of forcing you to upgrade. The Powermac G3, for example was made in 1999 and was supported until 2007 Leopard, the average 2005 PC can't run 7 without extensive stripping down of it (MS unsupported)

[Hell Labs]

The avarige 2005 PC can't even run xp any more. When I was running my celeron/512mb system I wanted to cut my dick off every time I tried to open a word processor and firefox at the same time. it's weird how the system requirements for Xp are 128mb ram, but it uses just under 350 on first boot. No weird load-on-startup programs installed, theming turned off.

sloooooow

Oh yeah, Did you know that NTs design was based on VMS as well as OS/2? And they stole the TCP/IP stack from BSD.

[koaftder]

The avarige 2005 PC can't even run xp any more. When I was running my celeron/512mb system I wanted to cut my dick off every time I tried to open a word processor and firefox at the same time. it's weird how the system requirements for Xp are 128mb ram, but it uses just under 350 on first boot. No weird load-on-startup programs installed, theming turned off.

sloooooow

I've had some slow computing experiences in my time spent here on Earth, but never once have I ever thought about cutting my dick off because of it.

[Hell Labs]

I've had some slow computing experiences in my time spent here on Earth, but never once have I ever thought about cutting my dick off because of it.

It was about the same as this level of rage. There's a point where you just want to break everything, all at once.

[persia]

Don't know if you can turn off the accelerometer without jailbreaking. There's a Cydia app called RotationInhibitor, but you can't load Cydia apps without jailbreak.

Reminds me, can one turn off the automated screen rotation? Without jailbreaking it, that is?