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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #74 from previous page: October 03, 2007, 06:24:42 PM »
"Occam's razor"

Which is more likely.....?

It's heart felt statement on the true situation and the actual facts

or

BM tales.

In the end, from my perspective, it really doesn't matter if any new products materialise. As its most likely if there is any intrinsic value in the IP, it would be owned by someone who could extract as much market value out of the US legal system.

Lawyers get fat on it.

The truth sadly is the Amiga has no market value and even in the unlikely event it ever did. It would be gobbled up in someones portfolio for a rainy day.

Hang on....Hmmmmm....Bill ? Lets be honest...Tax Loss.....no product.....where have I seen that before......Am I right, would someone be out of pocket if it made a profit ?
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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2007, 07:06:33 PM »
@Bill McEwen

It is not a good idea to admit talks of selling the company and at the same time promoting it.

You also mentioned that you have not supported Intent for a long time, which I conclude that AA is dead.  This should be posted first on your website, before being put on a message board.
 
Please provide proof instead of just claims.  We are all tired of the finger pointing.

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2007, 07:33:47 PM »
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Poster: kd7ota  Posted: 2007/10/2 23:00:08

Ubuntu Linux 7.10 will be out this month....

That OS rocks, and probably as close to an Amiga i will ever get.


I agree.  I love Ubuntu.  I don't know about the multitasking part, but it feels like a next generation "Amiga".  It's a fun OS, it takes work to tweak and configure, but most importantly it's here and works with modern hardware.

I have Feisty Fawn.  I think I'll skip the new release this month and wait for the one coming early next year which has the extended service date.  I don't know much about AmigaOS4, but I don't see how it can really compare.  Has anyone done any side by side comparisons between OS4 and Linux?  Or perhaps AROS and Linux?  I'd be interested to read that.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2007, 07:57:59 PM »
CLAP! CLAP!

That's the spirit. As you, Mr Bill McEwen, can see, there's a lot of ppl here waiting for a new REAL A-m-i-g-a.

This type of spirit - I may call it "open minded", is the best thing you can do to every Amiga User.

This can be a test to see the results, but it can be a REAL new shining light. I'll bet on the last one:)

...And Why not ask to Amiga Users our wishes for the new hardware, for example? (Myself would like to see a 800mhz PPC + 68040(60) with some kind of aga compatibility, for example... is that possible?)

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2007, 08:29:13 PM »
Amiga Inc is like a cuckoo clock. Now they have
done their cuckoo'ing so months (maybe 6 months)
will pass before we hear the cuckoo again.

Amiga Inc you've let us all down. You have
not been able to protect what you inherited.
You did not belive in what you bought, so it
slipped out of your hands and that is all
your own fault.

Fight your fights now because you were lazy
and not careful enough when you lent your IP
to Hyperion. I feel NO pity for you.

I am amazed that so many people has commented
in a very similar manner, I hope you read them
all and realize NO ONE BELIEVES IN YOU ANYMORE !
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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2007, 08:40:15 PM »
Bill McEwen, you never belonged to the Amiga community, and never will. Your delusional insistence is pathetic.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2007, 08:43:10 PM »
Dear Mr. McEwen.

It`s an bad joke, i think. An ugly bad Joke! :pissed: YOU are frustrated because the Amiga Community doesn`t clap they hands an praises the great work of AmigaINC?! You can't be serious?! :crazy: :angry:

YOU are talking about frustration? What should WE do?! More than 15 Jears, we are waiting for the new Generation of Amiga Computers.

Computer - Not some ugly Handygames.

In this decade, we heard billions of promises, the most from you. Promises, Visions, Visions and Promises. I wanna to touch one, only one Promise. They are only Promises for the next years. What is going on, on the next weeks? Where are the new Generations of Amiga?

In Fact we are the MOST FAITHFUL Community. The Community with the biggest patience. And you are frustrated, because we are not in upbeat mood after the painful Kent-Affair? Are you joking?!

YOU are NOT in the Position to claim loyality from US!

We do not have to proof you our Loyality, no, YOU have to proof, that you are loyal to the Community!  :pissed:

I have enough to hear some "our deal was`nt it, because the other company wasn`t really ethical" - bulls***!

i am sorry about my poor english, but i think, the message is recognizeable.  :evil:
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2007, 08:49:44 PM »
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I've been rethinking them for about 7 years with and open mind and actually mostly on the side of Amiga Inc. But now I'm more than convienced of their lack of professionalism and competence. And yes, hand most any of us millions of dollars and ownership of the Amiga IP, damn strait we'd do better.


Plaz

Who'd need millions of dollars.  Hand me the IP with nothing but the money in my pocket and I'd do better!
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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2007, 08:54:52 PM »
did i mention "as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike." ? if not i think it fits bill mcewen very good...  :-x
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2007, 09:56:21 PM »
This is so bizarre.  What is the point of this?  The remnants of the Amiga community have nothing to offer Amiga Inc.  Why bother with this drivel?

Even if they did have something to peddle they must surely know that there is only about 12 people left who would even consider buying into anything with Amiga Inc's dirty finger marks all over it.  It really makes no sense at all.

The ultimate unanswerable question isn't "why are we here?" or "what is the meaning of life?" it's "Amiga Inc....WTF?".  The very existence of this post, and potentially Amiga Inc. itself defies all logic and possibly breaks the laws of thermodynamics (Where is all this hot air coming from?)

It's 2007.  I wonder if they can keep this freak show going for an even decade.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2007, 10:08:06 PM »
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Who'd need millions of dollars. Hand me the IP with nothing but the money in my pocket and I'd do better!


You're absolutely correct. I was just going with the same startup capital they had. All the more reason not to fail with all the extra assets.

Plaz
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2007, 10:32:54 PM »
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Amiga lost a deal worth more than 250,000 units because the development was not properly handled. Amiga has been working and negotiating with third party OEM’s and ODM’s for far more units than the iPhone® has shipped and we still are unable to provide the product.



Ok well, I didn't want to start out with something negative...  but I call BULLSH*T on this.  WHY WHY WHY do we have to have such OUTRAGIOUS BS claims from you, it just makes you look foolish.   I mean, like leading an entire city government on that you were going to give them $10,000,000.00, which you clearly don't even come close to having.


Really, you were ready to sell MORE phones than iPhones?  Sure buddy.  :lol:  You really do think it's just You, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs.  That's pretty bold, but you're going to have to live with this statement to your name now like so many others.

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New hardware is indeed being developed, and we have selected the first 3rd party manufacturer that will build in high quantities


I hope this isn't the "ACK" boards you STILL have listed on your website that are, what now, 6 MONTHS LATE at this point??   No discrepect to, ACK, as I think he has done a lot to over at Amigaworld.net to improve his cedibility, but we all know now that ACK turned out to be just a one man show.


Where is AmigaOS5??   If you guys have been SOOOOOO busy all these years WHAT exactly HAVE you produced??  

I don't understand it.  You always talk about ALL this work you are doing.   But there is NEVER anything to show?????  How is that possible after all these YEARS AND YEARS???

It appears you have just been sitting waiting for AOS4 and really doing nothing.  I mean if people make fun of how long it took to make AOS4 then you guys should have something twice as good as Vista.  

Oh wait, that's right AmigaOS5 that should be out real soon now will, what was it you said, "Blow the socks of of Mac OS X"

So OS4 and lawsuit aside where are YOUR other products from the last 7 years Bill??  Do you have ANYTHING to show??  Really??
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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2007, 10:54:00 PM »
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I think this weird whine/rant is perhaps that last we will hear from him. Call me crazy - but I think he gets the sack by the end of the year/end of court case. And trust me - that will surely not fix anything.

I found the whole open letter extremely funny and frustrating at the same time, hence our joking version of it that our little podcast put together right after reading this mess. What a freakin joke. God help us.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2007, 11:31:08 PM »
Hello Bill!

You know reading you letter I found NOTHING. NOTHING.

You told me that you do something for "Amiga". WHAT. When I will go to www.amiga.com what I see there. NOTHING. Pictures and some crapy games for PC or other "high end" hardware. Amaing software!!! Do you want me to but this software? Do you think I would like to lose my money for such a thinks?  :lol:

You didn't release ONE good program for Ami... and you telling me that you work on it. SURE.

Hardware. Yes, I also have a hardware for Ami, but I'm NOT going to show you :P.

You say OS4.0. THIS SYSTEM IS WRITEN. IT'S WORKING. On AmigaONE, Amiga "classic", COULD work on Sam440 and SharkPPC.

THIS IS WHAT IS DONE. I can see it, I can smell it, I can touch it.

Where is your hardware and software? WHERE? NOBODY knows about that expect you, alone...

Please, just agree for OS4.0 for Sam440, Classics, SharkPPC this will be SOMETHING you could do... not just talking, writing...

There are people who recognize this system, and this people can advertise it... to other... you can write the software for this OS...if you can...

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2007, 11:43:47 PM »
Last think.

This companes which are not loyal. I know WHY!! (really ;).

THEY DEVELOP SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE!!

This is why you don't like them! You sit and do NOTHING, they DEVELOP and sell HARDWARE and SOFTWARE last 15 years.

I don't have a SINGLE thing from Amiga Inc.

You talking about frustration...

You know, I hava Ami around 16 years. You know what is frustration. Good that I can only write. Talking would be more difficult.

And again, your great "software", please go for your own web site... PRODUCTS, select AMIGA CLASSIC (15 possitons).

AND what is there? GAMES FOR PC/WindowsXP

http://www.amiga.com/shop/index.php?cat_id=45
:pissed:

THERE IS NOTHING.

Buy, and give the rights to do something for Amiga to PEOPLE who ARE WORKING on it and have some "identity"...

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Re: Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community
« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2007, 12:07:47 AM »
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Call me crazy - but I think he gets the sack by the end of the year/end of court case. And trust me - that will surely not fix anything.


Your crazy! :-)  There is no way in hell the court case will go to trial before spring 08.  Itec has till Nov 10th to reply of joining KMOS/AI vs Hyperion in federal court.  Odds are they will appeal which drags the court case out even longer.  If they lose, then AI and Itec and Hyperion will begin deps and other explority request prior to jury trial which doesn't even have a date set yet.

I'd say maybe this time next year we will a verdict.

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