Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community

[dammy]

Call me crazy - but I think he gets the sack by the end of the year/end of court case. And trust me - that will surely not fix anything.

Your crazy! :-)  There is no way in hell the court case will go to trial before spring 08.  Itec has till Nov 10th to reply of joining KMOS/AI vs Hyperion in federal court.  Odds are they will appeal which drags the court case out even longer.  If they lose, then AI and Itec and Hyperion will begin deps and other explority request prior to jury trial which doesn't even have a date set yet.

I'd say maybe this time next year we will a verdict.

Dammy

[GadgetMaster]

Rather than {bleep}ing and moaning on here go take up a hobby... like chess... or fishing... and then some years from now you will hear the news you are waiting for or you won't. Either way, you'd be doing something more worthwhile in the meantime rather than reading useless crap like this.

You talk as if we have put everything on hold waiting for Ainc to do something.

I stopped expecting anything from them years ago.

[Debaser]

Dammy:

Pardon me, I meant to phrase it as one or the other. Needless to say they will give him the sack - and it is impending.

[Minuous]

McEwen certainly hasn't convinced me of anything. His letter is, as usual, lacking in details and not addressing the concerns of the Amiga community. He does though seem to have admitted his incompetence, eg.: "we still are unable to provide the product.", "We made many mistakes", "Amiga lost a deal worth more than 250,000 units because the development was not properly handled."

He is still going on about that AmigaAnywhere crap, when he finally shuts up about this it will give me more confidence that he is going to pay some attention to the Amiga rather than to this other crap.

Going to their website doesn't fill me with much confidence either, after you have logged in as a developer, the blog page doesn't work,, the reports page doesn't work, there is no developer information there. The only thing that seems to work is the bug tracker which doesn't even use the standard Amiga bug reporting format.

What a pathetic joke. What HAVE you been working on for the past 7 years Bill?

[Methuselas]

This is a joke, right?  :roll:

[redfox]

An open response to Bill McEwan ... :roll:

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[SHADES]

Thread:

Actually, I think it's quite reasonable. They can't ship a product that won't work. Nothing wrong with the hardware, but they don't have an OS for it. There is a 3rd party that won't give it to them. It's their OS and because of all this, they are now in court. They still can't sell a working product unless people want Linux, if that's the case, go buy a generic PC.

Makes sense to me, there have been a lot of setbacks with the OS and programming of it by a delivery date. Heck it was supposed to be ready years ago! I still have a flyer labled "AOS on tour 2003!!" "come and see the new AmigaOne PPC ATX motherboard and Amiga OS4..." etc etc.
One thing I know is AI aren't to blame for that lack of maturation. It has taken far far too long tog get out. Now that it's supposedly finished, they can't get their hands on it to sell with new hardware.

I wouldn't sell new hardware with no product it was meant to run, I certainly wouldn't let some 3rd party take away my OS they were contracted to program and sell for me either oif they had broken their contracts and held my company at ransom. Nope, whatever the reason is, there is a reason AMIGA is in court and fighting to get it's OS, it's not a lie, it is something we can touch, see and feel. There is no lie here about the current situation, the court will decide on what is to happen with AMIGA products and it is also the deciding factor on how long this time period will be. Until this is sorted, we can't expect anything. Again, the consumers must suffer. I do understand why though.

[matthey]

Bill,

DiscreetFX has creditability.
Hyperion & the Frieden brothers have creditability.
Commodore was incompetent and had *some* creditability.

Amiga Inc. is incompetent and has *zero* creditability! You have consistently delivered lies for years. Look at the response to your lies! Your not fooling anyone! Wake up! Look in the mirror and examine who you have become! You have turned to the dark side but it is not too late to turn back. You will never recover the money they owe you so save yourself, your integrity, and quit this hoax. Search your heart and do the right thing Bill. Your not a bad man. You used to care.
Come back to us as an honest caring part of the Amiga community and we will forgive you. You can do it.

[Minuous]

@SHADES:

Even accepting what you said, that still doesn't excuse their lack of direction/activity, lack of communication with the community, refusal to honour previous committments, the ridiculous situation with the "Amiga Center", lack of any content on their site, partnership with convicted illegal monopolist, general unprofessionalism etc.

[AmigaHeretic]

There is a 3rd party that won't give it to them. It's their OS and because of all this, they are now in court.

Yeah, but that's not really what we're talking about.

This has nothing to do with Hyperion and AOS4.

See, there are TWO different paths...

One path is AOS4 -> Hyperion's job in which A Inc. invested almost NO money up front.  IE. None of Amiga's capitol went to this project at least not close to the MILLIONS that have been invested into Amiga Inc.


The OTHER path is the one we are talking about.  WHAT HAS AMIGA INC BEEN DOING FOR 8 YEARS??

They always have claims like they are working on Amiga OS 5, which will be better than MAC OS X.

Ok lets see a screen shot of Amiga OS 5.  Hyperion showed us early screen shots of AOS4 even when it didn't look so great.


There always announcing new hardware.  Dual Core motherboards were suppose to be out 6 months ago, so lets see a screen shot of a board.  Even of a pre-production board?  


You can't blame broken promises about AA or AmigaOS5 on Hyperion.

What kind of crazy people, have a crappy website, have ALMOST NO business going at all and then CLAIM they are going to donate $10,000,000.00 for a hockey stadium?   :crazy:

[Atheist]

What does Bill McEwen DO all day anyway?!??!?!


7 years, 9 months, 3 days! Tick, tick, tick....

[McVenco]

What does Bill McEwen DO all day anyway?!??!?!

I think he's usually attentionwh*ring somewhere else. He probably runs a LiveJournal, ranting about himself or something, and every 6 months or so he remembers the name Amiga and decides to draw attention to himself over here again...

He's probably just an Emo-kid, but of somewhat older age :-)

[Manu]

The ultimate unanswerable question isn't "why are we here?" or "what is the meaning of life?" it's "Amiga Inc....WTF?"

ROTFL, Can I use that in my signature. LOL!

[welck]

Well, whatever he does. He does it right here:

Main office of Amiga Inc on Google Maps
Makes at least some things a bit more tangible doesn't?  :lol:

I see a lot of you guys fly off the handle and support most of it but in Bill McEwen defense; I remember back in the day  when he didn't disclose things, he got a lot of flack and critism on the things he did. When he did set deadlines and things got boched up beyond his controle, he was the one getting crapped on. I think his strategy since then is this kneejerk reaction.

The problem is that everyone has fond memories of the Amiga but this memory is different for every groups of Amigans. Defining what makes an Amiga just adds to the complexity. You can't please all people of all of the time, but most people most of the time.

It sounds harse to us Amigans but It hink Bill McEwen should have stuck to his own vision how the Amiga should be and gone for it (like Mark Shuttleworth and Linux) Because if he would believe it is good and turned out to be be succesfull who are we to critize?

Of course, this is all projection and theory at this point. I think AROS will give us more peace of mind.

[dammy]

@Debaser

Pardon me, I meant to phrase it as one or the other. Needless to say they will give him the sack - and it is impending.

I highly doubt Kouri will fire McBill as McBill has been doing what Kouri has instructed him to do.  Your blaming alot of this on McBill because he is an easy fall guy that the community has come to hate.  Follow the money and then you will see who is really calling the shots at AI. It is certainly not McBill.

Dammy

[MarkTime]

He says its an open letter to all Amigan's past, present and future.  Hey, Billmunch wrote a letter to me.

I guess I can write a response too:
Don't waste my time Billmunch!

He says we don't understand the new Amiga has resources.  Ya right!   What about the stadium deal?

Investing in proven track records....ya right, what about all this crud about ACK designs, which reads like a hobbyist looking for some kind of geek validation, if I ever saw one.

It's the same old same old...

Nothing to see here.  

Billmunch, if you have such vast resources, you don't need my agreement on anything...and thank goodness, because YOU WILL NOT GET IT.

Sincerely,

past Amigan

p.s. mcB was absolutely told to not ignore classic Amiga as a revenue stream, and he decided to patronize the advice givers as not understanding 'real business'...mcB made bad decision after bad decision, no reason to blame Gateway, he got his chance to prove his mettle.