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Rebol for MorphOS
« on: November 10, 2003, 03:31:31 AM »
Genesi has begun discussions with REBOL to integrate portions of REBOL into a free developer package for the MorphOS Developer Connection. Genesi would pay REBOL a license fee for such a package and may bundle REBOL with the MorphOS SDK. The Corporate REBOL site can be found here.

All interested in such an arrangement, please express your interest here on this thread. Please be specific about your interest and the advantages you can see in the integration of REBOL into the next generation of MorphOS.

 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2003, 07:27:10 AM »
WOW!  First R.J., now Dr. Carl S. himself!  Looks like MOS has discovered the value of the name and the history!  Maybe, if there was a "MOS FOR A1" I might look at it!
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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2003, 12:04:25 PM »
Like most people, I dont understand the significance of this technological marvel. I have however downloaded a REBOL demo ages ago and was extremely impressed with the product.

WHEN are you people going to read MARKETING 101?

You might be sitting on a revolutionary concept, but if you try to sell it in nerdspeak- it will evaporate or worse still get stolen and shelved by the evil microsoft.

Sounds great, make it happen... but LET THE WORLD KNOW.

Will Amiga learn from it's own history?

thank you.
 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2003, 12:28:22 PM »
I still don't really know what REBOL does... I've read pages and pages of technical and promotional documents but I still don't know how it will benefit me!!!

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2003, 12:33:45 PM »
my point exactly.  Wake up brainiacs!
 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2003, 12:51:11 PM »
People are constantly complaining that Pegasos isn't Amiga. With REBOL on board, it gets yet another step closer to convincing. After all, Sassenrath was behind REBOL, and how much more Amiga do you get?
 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2003, 12:56:03 PM »
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People are constantly complaining that Pegasos isn't Amiga. With REBOL on board, it gets yet another step closer to convincing. After all, Sassenrath was behind REBOL, and how much more Amiga do you get?



They want a little Sticker that says Amiga.

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2003, 01:05:17 PM »
lol... AmigaOS is amigaos because it is AmigaOS, not becaues the original people are involved or its got the same classic apps.

its AmigaOS because its the original source!

I dont think bbrv are getting REBOL onto their platform just because it or its developers had something to do with Amiga's. Their doing it because there could be a market for it!
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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2003, 01:09:45 PM »
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lol... AmigaOS is amigaos because it is AmigaOS, not becaues the original people are involved or its got the same classic apps.


MOS and UAE run those same apps just fine, AROS too on 68k hardware.

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its AmigaOS because its the original source!



The Fiedens (sp?) have stated that they have had to rewrite much of it.

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I dont think bbrv are getting REBOL onto their platform just because it or its developers had something to do with Amiga's. Their doing it because there could be a market for it!


Yes, I agree.

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2003, 01:22:12 PM »
Original source? You're kidding, right? OS4 is as much as a rewrite as AROS or MOS. I'd love for you to explain to me how you can turn 68k assembler source into C without a rewrite.
 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2003, 02:03:47 PM »
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Original source? You're kidding, right? OS4 is as much as a rewrite as AROS or MOS. I'd love for you to explain to me how you can turn 68k assembler source into C without a rewrite.
 


You forget that some parts of the OS are running under 68k emulation, they obviously use the original source :-D

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2003, 02:07:33 PM »
Nitpicker ;)
 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2003, 02:50:39 PM »
Our discussions with Carl will be focused on using REBOL as a universal tool for all operating systems running on the platform. Clearly, MorphOS is our number one long term priority with all this moving toward the mobile environment, but there could be great benefit in uniting all the Pegasos supported operating systems through REBOL.

It also seems an interesting way to further improve the stature of the Phoenix Developer Consortium as a clearing house for all things Pegasos.

We will do our best to further the action required as quickly as we can.

Sincerely,
R&B  :-)

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2003, 02:56:24 PM »
@bloodline,

well I get your point...

rebol is just a scripting language that works on a lot of platforms, and it doesn't necessarily do anything that another language doesn't do.

But, it is a fun interesting language.

As for selling it, well it only needs to be useful and it will begin to sell.

For example, if you had an OS that integrated it, and rebol was the engine behind 'folder actions', i.e. you drop a file in a folder and something happens automatically, whether that be archiving, e-mailing, scrubbing and forwarding...

then you could say glibly, here is what Rebol is, its the engine that makes folder actions work.

Of course, that is not a technical explanation, and is hardly meaningful to most of us, but that would be 'marketing'...unfortunately marketing isn't just talking a good game when you try to sell the vacuum cleaner at the door...its about a lot of things, but oh well...

it sounds like this most definately will not be integrated into MorphOS, and therefore will not provide any unique value to MorphOS, an OS sorely in need of some kind of unique value.

I just have to point out, anyone can get rebol already, and they don't have any need to purchase a pegasos for Rebol.

This is a nonevent, as its stated now.
 

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Re: Rebol for MorphOS
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2003, 03:30:11 PM »
MarkTime, we will work on turning this non-event into one.

;-)

R&B