Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?

[JimS]

I wonder if there's anything important to the Amiga - documentation, notes, source code, or whatever in those offices that could be lost....

[meerschaum]

why am I happy? , well I'm not happy about them going under... I'm happy about the truth comming out and people finally having an unbiased view of them... its good to see the truth come out and the 'FUD" and 'Troll' tellers get a taste of it..

[Tigger]

Why are you all celebrating?

I suppose the chance of this (and the implied AI is bankrupt) being true is very high, but how is that reason for joy?

We're glad the truth is out??   I dont see parties starting, many in the community are hoping that the lies told by Amiga Inc will stop now, or at least not be believed.   Last year Amiga Inc told us at least a dozen lies about what was really happening in their offices remember when:

1) The phones were hacked
and then
2) The phone numbers were changed because we were getting too many calls

Someone posted they had been locked out of there building, they said it was untrue, I and others (T_Bone was one I believe) send pizza to the building, guess what they werent there.   They still are telling people we are working there, things are rocking, plus of course (Buy coupons, coupons are good, we'll send you a free T-Shirt).   How many fewer coupons would they have sold if everyone knew that they had been locked out of their building by there landlord.   Now the landlord is auctioning off the contents of Amiga Incs old offices (at the offices) and we have the Amiga Inc crew claiming that its just some old stuff we dont need anymore.   By there own admission, they havent been in those offices for months, why are "Amiga Inc" holding an auction at the offices they moved "everything' out of months ago if we believe their official stance.    The truth is they arent holding the auction, its being done by there former landlord, and there isnt alot of way to spin this in a positive vein.
     -Tig

[Coder]

Hi,

Why all the fuzz? There is really nothing going on at all. Why talk about Amiga being bust and all? Amiga is there now and also tomorrow.

Coder

[redrumloa]

@Coder

Good one buddy :roflmao:

By the way where you been Coder?

[Tigger]

Poster: Coder Date: 2003/5/16 11:11:29
Hi,

Why all the fuzz? There is really nothing going on at all. Why talk about Amiga being bust and all? Amiga is there now and also tomorrow.

:-)   Coder, hope you and Imation are doing good, we havent heard much from you two since you returned to Thailand (a country I had alot of fun exploring in January btw).  
     -Tig

[Paul_Gadd]

Why are you all celebrating?

No one is celebrating atm but if Amiga Inc do go bust then it is worth celebrating the end of the cancer in Amiga users and Amiga companies sides.

So the world may know.

[Coder]

@redrumloa

Good one buddy  

Well, I got info from Fleecy wich tells different. And I believe him. :-)

By the way where you been Coder?

Getting settled in here in Thailand. Wich is pretty much a done deal now. Ohh and some holiday time.

Coder

[Coder]

@Tigger

Coder, hope you and Imation are doing good, we havent heard much from you two since you returned to Thailand (a country I had alot of fun exploring in January btw).

We are doing great. I do come here everyday. Also we posted about us but that is on the thread that does not show up on the mainpage and is easily missed.

And also it's more like a holiday now. Doing nothing all day long. :-) But slowly I am getting back to doing my work I wanted to do. And that is making games.

Coder

[meerschaum]

Well, I got info from Fleecy wich tells different. And I believe him.

if/when they do go absolutely bust... I hope you dont mind when I laugh at you and say 'see I told ya so' a few times...

[ne_one]

The most tragic thing about all of this is the number of people that devote countless hours debating over who is right and who is wrong. Why bother?

No matter how you slice it, blind faith or cynicism don't change the situation. Looking at the user community who in their right mind would want to market products to such a fickle bunch?

This information isn't good but it's clear a lot of people have self-serving motives that are equally distressing. Everyone has all the answers but virtually no experience in delivering. It's a lot easier to call the shots when you're sitting from the sidelines.

Instability is bad for everyone - thriving competition is desperately needed, not more deathbed vigils.

[Targhan]

My opinion as co-webmaster here: This is good stuff!  Lot's of things to talk about, and we can enjoy a few more debates for a while over this one!

My opinion as a person:  I hope that McEwen is gone, and that he has to work for Chris Aldi, Juurgen Haage, Felix, or any of the guys he's screwed-over in the past.  I want him to eat out of the same plate a lot of developers had to eat out of.

Yeah, btw, I'm a Genesi employee now too.  But guess what?  I don't have an "official" opinion.  My opinions expressed here are MY OWN.

[Warface]

I think you are acting (or are you indeed acting?) very young and spoiled, gloating as you are about the demise of an amiga company and decent (I believe they are) human beings.

Th eproblem is that, that those who are right and telling the truth are called "FUDders" "Trolls" and "Liars" as long as the Actual Amiga leadership (not just the actual one) can make people believe the opposite. When the bubble bursts and it turns out you're right then you're the worst kind of wrongdoers, harming those poor ppl.

They dig their grave for themselves. Just to be clear.

[System]

as a person who learned to walk with the amiga and recently started to look into the community again I can say that we have a wire fraud in the making or as we say in Sweden "bedrägeri" there are obvious signs of bankrupcy and if that is'nt the case it is probably a corporate reconstruction (??)

But my personal opinion on the matter is that the unfortunate people over at Amiga inc are head over submerged in water.
they seriously need to rethink what they are doing and as far as this netventures thing goes, they should exercise their shares. Kick the people that can be coerced into it, board meeting, get a good-handson-team in there  to rebuild and salvage what can be salvaged.

And as far as this thing is going with the person known as samface and the other Swedes:
 "grabbar kika på dokumenten och bestäm er, det är väl trots allt bättre om vi går ihop och gör något vi kan göra något åt alt. med än att vi försöker blåsa liv i något eller hur!? "



and to all the others, leave it be, the documents basically say one of two things, nothing to really argue who's right or who's wrong about;

Lets just take this journey where it goes and if it ends, let's begin another!

[cockney_dave]

The Amiga inc. website is up and running and the news page was last
updated yesterday.

Amiga inc. are autioning some furniture, so, maybe they're
refurbishing their offices?

Why do people insist on this scare mongering?

Amiga Inc. are clearly not out of business - selling off some old
furniture doesn't mean they've gone bust.

[IonDeluxe]

I remember alot of people jumping for joy when commodore went under.....and look where that brought us.

These kinds of threads do nothing but harm the comunity.More people get turned away from amiga, which means less sale for eyetech and Genesi(even if genesi do not have a product for sale at this time) and less sales for hyperion which in turn leads to less developers, less applications.

I am personally disgusted by the lot of it, both Genesi and Amiga Inc.Both of these parties have provided poor examples of integrity and behaviour, and certain behaviors in both camps do nothing but tarnish the already rusty image that the amiga community provides to the rest of the world.The rest of the world that we need to bring amiga back from the edge of the grave.

We can see the truth of this by Bodie rethinking his decision to buy amiga.What is a someone newly interested in the amiga going to think?