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Re: Cleaning your computers can be a time consuming task
« Reply #104 from previous page: May 17, 2003, 06:52:53 AM »
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Thanks. I never was good at symbolic stuff. That's why I like Charles Bukowski so much :-)
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #105 on: May 17, 2003, 07:04:48 AM »
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When you read "auction, police seizure" it doesn't mean the company is auctioning off their own furniture.


It doesn't. Read further down on the page, next to the Boing Ball and Amiga logo :-P
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #106 on: May 17, 2003, 11:26:30 AM »
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Aw, hell! Let's all preorder products from upstart companies! Once people realize Amigans are all suckers, investors should dive right in!


No where in my post did i sugguest to preorder anything.

IS Insulting All amiga users the only way you know to get your view across.

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There's something called, "proof of concept", and that's how you earn funding for future projects. If you can't get money because nobody is interested in your concept, then that's your fault.


I agree

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No, I don't think all companies fail because they are morons. Some people get lucky and others are not. But selling coupons as a fundraiser is not the answer.


I agree

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Suckers!


Who is that aimed at ?
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #107 on: May 17, 2003, 12:02:06 PM »
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No one here is doing anything to make things better,its just making us look stupid bunch of back stabbing gits to the world as soon as things dont go as we like.


It's a pretty untrue accusation. But most of us work for the community and not Amiga Inc's sake, that is true. IMHO they called for it: they splitted then alienated the bigger of the community, and now you expect that part of the community to rush and help out your favourite vapour company? I'd say no way.

They are on their own. If they deliver products, keep their words and PROVE to be honest then the community will help them too.

Helping and praising the Inc, whatever happens, whatever it does, lies, promises, ignores is not a god given duty of the community in all circumstances as you insist.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #108 on: May 17, 2003, 05:41:18 PM »
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It's a pretty untrue accusation. But most of us work for the community and not Amiga Inc's sake, that is true. IMHO they called for it: they splitted then alienated the bigger of the community, and now you expect that part of the community to rush and help out your favourite vapour company? I'd say no way.


Its Pretty untrue to you maybe but not to me or others that i know.

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they splitted then alienated the bigger of the community


Bigger part you must be jokeing. and where did the other half spilt too.

Where did i say that amiga.inc is my avourite vapour company.

Stop putting words into my mouth.

Just because i say i dopnt like apples that does not mean that im saying i like oranges.

Not likeing one does not mean you must like the other.
 
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They are on their own. If they deliver products, keep their words and PROVE to be honest then the community will help them too.


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Helping and praising the Inc, whatever happens, whatever it does, lies, promises, ignores is not a god given duty of the community in all circumstances as you insist.


I Agree, but not with me insisting that ppl should help & support amiga.inc.
I never said that.

What i am insisting on if you dont want to support amiga.inc for what ever reason then dont.But that dont mean you have to attack them as much as you can either.

There are  3 choices in 1)Support 2)Obstain 3)Against

Im at 2) i have not supported Amiga.inc in anyway nore any other Amiga IP owner in the past. but that does not mean i have to be against them.

Fare to many of you will not allow ppl to be at 2)

If your not against amiga.inc them you must be for them. WRONG.

I  just dont feel the need to waste time on them either way,let them sort out there own mess.

But no most of you cant live with that you have to try to make  things harder for them by making a bigger mess all over the forums.

So say you want them to sort them selfs out then if you do just that leave them to it.


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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #109 on: May 17, 2003, 06:23:22 PM »
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I bought amigaos3.9 because i wanted Amigaos3.9 i would not ever buy anything that i did not want just to help out Amiga.inc.


Just as well, since Amiga Inc would not have profited in any way from your puchase. They got no revenue or license fees from sales of OS 3.9.
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2003, 02:59:20 PM »
Well if AI does go bust, I hope Gateway will to the right thing and put all Amiga related intellectual poperty under GPL... Give the thing to the community, and let us do what we want with it.
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #111 on: May 18, 2003, 11:33:50 PM »
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Well, it can't get any worse. With OS4 in the hands of Hyperion, it doesn't look like anything new will come out from a post-Amiga Inc. company. You might as well build a whole new computer, and then, it's "not Amiga".

Really, I had no interest in Amiga Inc. revamping the 68K systems. PC hardware has moved on, and there are hundreds of companies that can make effecient hardware better than anything Commodore could dream of doing. Volume tends to weed out the weak like that.

The Amiga and its hardware principles died with Commodore. I wanted a brand new machine that works *LIKE* the Amiga, but running on common PC hardware. Since I'm a big fan of interpreted programming languages, VP really got my attention. But then, there was endless silence.


Waccoon just said the only accurate thing about the Amiga since the demise of Commodore.  I salute him.

Unfortunately, nobody's going to listen.  I mean, hell's bells, Dave Haynie has said as much and nobody listens to him, either.
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #112 on: May 19, 2003, 01:03:25 AM »
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He will not directly answer the question, nor has he directly answered (yes or no) a lot of questions. He'll have some long, drawn out explanation -- like Gary who says that "the equipment being auctions is no longer being used" -- while carefully leaving out any similance of facts (in the case of the auction, it's not being used because they were evicted and the equipment seized, but God save the facts).

When he does, I will be certain to point out the inaccuracies of his statement.


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Fleecy: Bill McEwen is still CEO. He was CEO before I posted that statement, he was the CEO when I posted that statement and is the CEO today as I type this answer to you. I have no comments to make about any on going lawsuits.  


That seemed pretty direct to me, but go ahead and point out the inaccuracies...
 

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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #113 on: May 19, 2003, 04:08:47 AM »
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He didn't answer the question.

He was asked if he knew what Bill mcEwan was going to state in the
case regarding Bolton Peck.

In return, Fleecy just went on and on stating that Bill is CEO.

In short, he didn't answer the question (if he knew) at all.
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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #114 on: May 19, 2003, 11:15:12 AM »
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He didn't answer the question.

He was asked if he knew what Bill mcEwan was going to state in the
case regarding Bolton Peck.


No, but he addressed the question directly by saying he would not comment on law suites. He also addressed the implication behind the question for the benefit of everyone who kept saying he did not directly say that McEwen was still CEO, which needless to say, still won't be satisfactory for them.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc auctioning off office and computers?
« Reply #115 on: May 20, 2003, 05:29:05 AM »
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No, but he addressed the question directly by saying he would not comment on law suites. He also addressed the implication behind the question for the benefit of everyone who kept saying he did not directly say that McEwen was still CEO, which needless to say, still won't be satisfactory for them.


No, he acted as if the Peck suit is still in doubt (its not) so he couldnt comment on what Bill said.  Obviously it was interesting to hear that despite Bills sworn testimony that he is no longer the CEO of Amiga Inc, that Fleecy still believes he is.   Of course I believe Fleecy is lying with his answer, he knows what Bill said in his deposition, he is just playing cover up.   Ray, Fleecy and Gary cant even keep there story straight about the auction.   We have Rays 'its a good thing', Fleecy with 'we are getting rid of old stuff we dont use' and Gary's 'the landlord is selling old stuff we "just left" there'.   The truth is they were locked out of there building last year and the auction is being carried out on behalf of there landlords to clear some of their debt with them.   The auction house has told me and others the auction is being carried out by them on behalf of the landlord (ie the Inception Group LLC).    Why they have to lie about this stuff I dont know.  
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