Microsoft game pack in COMPUSA national flier.

[System]

HMetal name some community forums/etc that are here because of amiga.inc (make like you're pointing us where to get support)

[Warface]

Excuse me, but what is so technologically challenging in a crossword puzzle? Add to that, that I dislike Microsoft a lot... I wouldn't even buy a crossword puzzle for my palm if it was platform independent and available for that (which isn't the case).

Yet, despite all this, it's a good thing IMO. Better than nothing. Hope to see something more serious though.

[System]

The argument that 'AmigaDE is not an Amiga' does not hold up here

so if I spend my money to get AmigaDE then I can run classic amiga apps/games/etc all from within DE? I can run DE on my Amiga? or do I need a PC to run DE? or what?... gimme the rundown on that one...from where I'm sitting AmigaDE is a piece of PDA software with the Amiga name on it... and nothing more... perhaps I'm wrong???

I will accept that they -lied- occasionally

to me thats unacceptable...

I am amazed by Bill McEwen's inability to foretell things accurately

hah

Bill McEwen stated that OS4 should be ready in a few months. WHAT. What on earth could possess him to say such a thing?

wanted to look cool??!?!??!? I honestly dont know...but since fleecy is posting here perhaps he can explain this...

[quiesce]

"so if I spend my money to get AmigaDE then I can run classic amiga apps/games/etc all from within DE? I can run DE on my Amiga? or do I need a PC to run DE? or what?... gimme the rundown on that one...from where I'm sitting AmigaDE is a piece of PDA software with the Amiga name on it... and nothing more... perhaps I'm wrong???"

In its current state it only exists for PDA's, Windows and Linux, but I'm sure you're not so naive as to not realise it is still in development.

[System]

In its current state it only exists for PDA's, Windows and Linux, but I'm sure you're not so naive as to not realise it is still in development.

yes its obviousely still in development... but above you  claimed that  the argument that its  'AmigaDE is not an Amiga' dosent hold water ... well I ask 'what makes it an amiga' besides the name then?... surely you can even answer this question?

[HMetal]

@mips_proc

Surely you jest. :-?

Proceed to the main Amiga Inc Portal where you will find an image map to our subsites.  From there, click on os.amiga.com (the AmigaOS site) where you will find a
forums link in the menu.  This is for AmigaOS and AmigaOne users to discuss the OS.  There is even a "chatter" forum for general chatter.

Are you a developer?  From the main portal image map, proceed to the Amiga Support Network (amigadev.net) where you will find a forums tab at the top, just below the site logo.

Also, while you're at the amigadev.net site, look at our mailing lists.  Feel free to join any to which you are interested.

[System]

Ray,

{edit: nevermind... I cannot be arsed with you and "Fleecy's" lies any longer.  The truth is coming.}

[Ohno]

I cannot be arsed with you and "Fleecy's" lies any longer. The truth is coming

Oh come on Wayne. We're finally having a more positive discussion here where people are actually communicating in a friendly manner with respect towards each other and you publically start name-calling again.

I appreciate this is your site and you can do with it whatever you like and I like amiga.org a lot, but if you have anything to say you can at least try to state your opinion in a more appropriate way, can't you? You always used to do so some time ago and I respected your opinion a lot more back then.... even when I disagreed with you on the subject.

Regards,

Onno

[Terminills]

@wayne ... you're making me wanna order as many cam subs as I can afford ... and frankly I hope the truth blows up in your face with the arrogance as of late ... I can honestly say I have no clue as to all the details but I will never claim otherwise, and anyone who does is a fool.

[zudobug]

It's like ma bug used to say to me: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."... Or at least explain yourself.

I've enjoyed reading the replies here anyway.  If anything good can be said about the constant whining, it is that it inspires ppl like Fleecy to post when they otherwise wouldn't bother.

But, in general, the bitching is really beginning to depress me.

[redrumloa]

Guys, you really shouldnt be surprisied by Wayne's responses. Negative? Maybe. Waranted? Absolutely.

[System]

You always used to do so some time ago

"Some Time ago" I wasn't continually lied to, threatened by and schemed against by "Fleecy" and the likes of Mike Bouma and others.  Well that's not entirely true.  I've consistently been lied to by "Fleecy" since 1997.  When confronted with this, including times, locations, and subjects, he says simply that it's his job to "market speak", and he learned that lesson when he was "canned by Schindler".

I for one am completely sick of the half-truths, hot air (aka real soon now promises) and outright bullshit from Amiga Inc.  As such, I will do anything I can to unveil the truth in this situation for everyone involved.  If the Amiga Inc followers don't like the truth, that's neither my fault, nor my problem.

As a start, I intend to matt, frame, and auction off the business card which "does not exist" at AmiWest.  100% of the proceeds going to Bolton Peck and his family (pending his agreement). There will also be several things I'll be handing out there which will provide irrefutable proof of the facts in this situation.

Again, the truth is coming.  Amiga Inc's only remaining choice is the messenger.  Them, or me.

[System]

you're making me wanna order as many cam subs as I can afford

You go right ahead and do so.  I'm sure that Bolton would appreciate being paid.

[Wilse]

:lol: Wheeeeeeeee! This is getting juicy! :lol:

[Terminills]

As a start, I intend to matt, frame, and auction off the business card which "does not exist" at AmiWest

for the record for $50 locally I can get you a whole box of those that will look identical in every aspect..  haha just because it looks authentic doesn't mean it is... but I don't claim to know if it is or isn't real.

[Kronos]

A few words :

1) Is the DE an Amiga, or even Amiga-related ? Only by name.

Sure it is nice tech, but it is not even as close tio being
"Amiga" as RiscOS/PC,BeOS/BOX or even QNX. Suggesting it would
be more "Amiga" than MOS or AROS is just insane.

2) Is the DE worth to be considered for developers ?

Not in it's current state. I'm quite sure that developing for
CE/.net is easier, maybe even cheaper if you put licence-fees/SDA
into the calc.

That's why most of the "big" Amiga-SW-companies never did anything
for the DE or have bailed out pretty soon (take epic as an example).

3) Do I believe in the super-secret updates, and plenty of SW "real soon" ?

Not after having heard the exact same stuff by the exact same
people over the last year (and it was pretty much the same
when I "left" in mid 2000).

3) Do I think that this the light at the end of the tunnel for AI ?

Not really, cos to many companies want to have a share of those
game-packs, and it isn't really ground-breaking for PDA-gaming.