Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II

[AmiGR]

I said everything I had to say. If you want to know
more about this case do some research.
Amiga Inc is not the leader anymore.
They are nothing. They produce nothing that interests
most Amiga users. Hyperion does, Genesi does,
*AMIGA* Inc doesn't... It's a shame... to be even called
"Amiga"

[HMetal]

@AmiGR

IMHO, it simply is none of your business who Amiga pays or doesn't pay and for what reason.

As for the rest, only time will tell.

[HMetal]

@AmigaGR

Oh you just wish that to be true don't you?  LOL.

Too bad it's a slant short of reality.

[System]

As far as I'm concerned, Amiga Inc. is in as much control as they can be under the circtumstances.

I believe in thier vision, and what they have said concerning AmigaOne/OS4.

No problems here, except for the fact that they are broke, and certain people are trying to destroy them.
I hope, of course, that backfires on those certain people.

As far as Amiga Inc. not paying one of it's employees...

I haven't heard that person complain about anything.
Maybe that person was paid.
Maybe that person didn't.

But it needs to be that particular person complaining, and not you.

If that person wants to speak, I'll listen.
But if that person doesn't want to speak, then it must not be as important as you say it is.

[AmiGR]

It already backfired... to Amiga Inc...
They've been ASKING for it for a VERY long time with
their legal threats and defamation. It backfired...
THEY are being sued.
And btw... that person doesn't speak on FORUMS for
his own reasons. This does not mean that he didn't
talk about it neither that he does not think that it's
important. He sued McEwen AND won already.

[HMetal]

@AmiGR

The only one defaming anyone or anything at this pont in time is you.  You have no idea or information of what the scenario is or was and as long as it is you, a third party, talking about a situation which you were not involved in, it will continue to be one-sided FUD.

Seriously, what purpose does it serve for you to spread garbage without proof?  Because company X and employee Y has a fallout, does that make the company fit a certain mold and henceforth should be treated with contempt?  If that's the case, quick, quit your job and petition all the employers of the world!  You'd better not get a job at anytime in the near or far future.   There isn't a single employer who hasn't had a fallout with an employee.

So, you are simply making a big issue out of nothing -- nothing as far as the community of Amiga users are concerned.  Just because one employee is gone and had a "bad parting" doesn't mean the company is gone, bad or is treating employees badly -- not that it is anyone's business but the company, employee and their legal representatives.  You simply don't have all the facts because someone wants you to believe things from a certain perspective.

I have nothing against you personally but you really do need to get a life and mind your own business. I mean, if you don't want to purchase Amiga/Eyetech/Hyperion product, then that's fine and completely your perogative but your consistent flame-baiting and "facts" without proof, in an issue that doesn't concern you, is just getting to be a bore.

..but who would expect anything different considering the (ahem) group that wants to twist things to suit their agenda? :lol:

[AmiGR]

HMetal, the problem is not "not payment".
It's lying. McEwen was telling him that he was
actually paying his medical insurance at all times...
till he got to use it and get a VERY nice not payed bill
of several thousant dollars.

And about products... I bought SEVERAL products
from Eyetech, I've got ALL games Hyperion developed (beta-tested 2.5 of them) and I'm happy
about that.
I also bought your.... party pack thing. I was lucky
someone bought it off me. Yes, yes, I also have
OS3.5 and 3.9. 3.9 was supposed to be an Amiga Inc.
product wasn't it (even while H&P made it).
So yes, it does VERY WELL concern me. I am happy
that OS4 is off your hands now as I will finally see it
on my shelf now.

Oh, by the way, is the 3sat story fictual?
The "1st of September: Get legal or get shut down" thingie? VARIOUS attempts to stop people from
going MOS "cause it's illegal?". Come on. These are
FACTS. And I do have facts to base my "employee"
story but I don't want to disclose his name, as I have
to in order to give more info. Please HMetal, people
need to know the truth. THE TRUTH. Nothing of these
would be said right now if Amiga Inc was open. They
decided to take another, cover up, route. These are
the consequencies. Don't blame anyone else about
this, I was **VERY** pro-Amiga Inc.

[Alkemyst]

@AmiGR

Your mixing up issues wich dont have anything to do with you with ones that do.

Dont use the issues that do have things to do with you as an excuse to talk about stuff that does not.

[HMetal]

@AmiGR

I don't have to tell you "the truth" about anything relating to Amiga employees and, actually, I am prevented by NDA about even disclosing information of this nature unless given permission to divulge such.  The information you are "entitled" to as Amiga releases it is on www.amiga.com, os.amiga.com, amigadev.net and amiga-anywhere.com.

I will repeat: Amiga's employee relations are none of your business.  There is nothing to "cover up" because you have no right to it in the first place.

By the way, if you were as "pro Amiga" and wary of "bad practices" as you claim you were, then an employee dispute wouldn't shake that.  Also, a "pro Amiga" user would stand by Amiga's decision to protect our intellectual property and our right to prevent piracy through perfectly acceptable practices as opposed to those who, by nature of losing, pretty much gave people a push to pirate AmigaOS 4 when it is released.

You may accuse Amiga of many things but we are at least professional enough to not advocate pirating of another product or even hint at such a practice by mentioning it in a public message or, for that matter, any other message.

P.S. AmigaOS is not "out of Amiga's hands" as you claim and, yes, it WILL hit the shelves. To assume that Amiga employee relations with 1 former employee have any bearing on the state of AmigaOS 4 is all too laughable. :lol:

So much for your argument(s).

[AmiGR]

I don't have to tell you "the truth" about anything relating to Amiga employees and, actually, I am prevented by NDA about even disclosing information of this nature unless given permission to divulge such. The information you are "entitled" to as Amiga releases it is on www.amiga.com, os.amiga.com, amigadev.net and amiga-anywhere.com.
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And people waiting for their t-shirts are entitled to
information about it but this information is not on
those sites. Are they NOT entitled to that information?

I will repeat: Amiga's employee relations are none of your business. There is nothing to "cover up" because you have no right to it in the first place.
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Yeah, right.

By the way, if you were as "pro Amiga" and wary of "bad practices" as you claim you were, then an employee dispute wouldn't shake that. Also, a "pro Amiga" user would stand by Amiga's decision to protect our intellectual property and our right to prevent piracy through perfectly acceptable practices as opposed to those who, by nature of losing, pretty much gave people a push to pirate AmigaOS 4 when it is released.
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He didn't advocate piracy. As he said in the thread
itself "If it is to be done, why not do it legally?".


You may accuse Amiga of many things but we are at least professional enough to not advocate pirating of another product or even hint at such a practice by mentioning it in a public message or, for that matter, any other message.
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Read above.

P.S. AmigaOS is not "out of Amiga's hands" as you claim and, yes, it WILL hit the shelves.
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Well, that's not what I read in BH's interview. As soon
as you go bankupt OS4 and the right to use the name
is theirs. I'm happy about that. Yes, it will hit the selves
as I already said. It will also hit my own shelf as well.

 To assume that Amiga employee relations with 1 former employee have any bearing on the state of AmigaOS 4 is all too laughable.
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Did I do that in my comment? I *REALLY* don't think
so.

So much for your argument(s).
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Right... Learn to read.

[HMetal]

And people waiting for their t-shirts are entitled to
information about it but this information is not on
those sites. Are they NOT entitled to that information?

The people who purchased such are getting their information and more will follow in THEIR club newsletter.  Those who are entitled to it, will receive it. That includes you, if you are a member. Those who are not in Club Amiga are not entitled to anything w.r.t the club except to know what it offers or doesn't offer, in case they are interested in joining.

He didn't advocate piracy. As he said in the thread
itself "If it is to be done, why not do it legally?".

Give me a break.  I read the posts here and on ann.lu.  I wasn't born yesterday nor was anyone who read it and saw through it.

Well, that's not what I read in BH's interview. As soon
as you go bankupt...[...]

You assume way too much. :lol:

..the rest of your nonsense relies on this silly theory that Amiga will be going bankrupt, something that won't be happening no matter what BB tries. :roflmao: