Why AmigaOS 4.0 is going to be successful…

[IonDeluxe]

@donnyEMU

Ever consider that you may be one of the lucky few?

Windows....I just cant say enuff about it, I prefer dos to windows.Windows is the Master Control Program as seen in TRON.Actually, I think the MCP could learn a thing or two from windows lol.

In my opinion an OS should be nothing more than an interface between the user, the hardware and the software you use.

[LorD]

@fatman2021 :

it seems you never used a PC with windows or that you don't know a lot
of people using it (you're a licky guy or you don't go outside enough
;-)). Anyway your statement is ridiculous, AmigaOS4 (nor Morphos) will
never make mass people to change their habits in using windows
softwares.... WINE for AmigaOS is impossible it depends on the x86
porocessor from what I know.

So be a little more realistic and before posting that kind of useless
thread, think about the consequencies (flaming...)

Welcome in the real world.

PS : AmigaOS (and Morphos) will have their own market and will never
compete with Windows and it is not the aim of both OSes.

[tintin]

Why would OS4 (or MorphOS for that matter) be more succesful than say BeOS ?
The PC market is Microsoft's, the PPC market is Apple's.  The leftovers are for Linux.
They are going to have to come with something quite amazing to even make a small change to that.  We are all Amiga enthousiasts here and that may warp our view.  The outside world couldn't care less about Amiga, it's OS etc...  As things stand now we will be lucky if our new "Amiga" (again no preference for blue or red) can do everything a PC and a Mac can do, preferably with the same quality or better.

[gregthecanuck]

Since we're talking Macs...

The new Macs are based on UNIX.  Nice idea but the layers of complexity (and eye-candy) make the UI quite sluggish.  Look at all the complaints on the various Mac forums one day.  Maybe at 2Ghz the UI is useable now??    :roll:

Amiga OS on the other hand will be pedal-to-the-metal.  The UI should be _really_ snappy on a 1GHz CPU with a decent Gfx card (once native drivers show up).  :-D

Does this stir up any flames?? ;-)

[Valan]

Windows is not as dominant as it was even a couple of years ago. Since the www started windows has far more competitors.

A electronic language translater today has as much computing power as the original Amiga. PDAs run CPUs of 66-400mhz, so size is not everything. Portables are both getting smaller and larger.

In short we need to change our view of what is a personal computer.

I think the days of Windows and Macos platforms are nearly over. 5 years at most since the sales of desktops are shrinking. I think that is what Dave Haynie meant. Why reproduce a dieing platform format?  

As the technology gets cheaper and the choice is more varied people will pick and choose what computing they want to do.

People do not want one great all round machine. Just take a look at the shops in the high street. People will want their machine to communicate with others easily. The platform that allows for easy communication will win out.

Today that means Apple Mac and Sony.

Valan

[mikeymike]

@ everyone

I was going to write something here, but it's another one of those same old threads, same old arguments, same old retorts.  Can we just not bother for a change?

[unclewilli-amigalover]

right fatman2021, my way of thinking also...

[CU_AMiGA]

Out of all operating systems, Amiga OS 4 is clearly the better mint. IMHO

[that_punk_guy]

CU_AMiGA wrote:
Out of all operating systems, Amiga OS 4 is clearly the better mint. IMHO

But it won't be sucessful in bringing down M$ and taking ovr the world, etc. That's the point.

[legion]

mikeymike wrote:
@ everyone

I was going to write something here, but it's another one of those same old threads, same old arguments, same old retorts.  Can we just not bother for a change?

Oh c'mon mikeymike, CLEARLY a positive comment about OS4, though maybe naive in nature, deserves a *thorough* trouncing!!  I mean, everybody KNOWS that OS4 is going to fall flat on its face.  But MorphOS?  Now, THERE is an OS with REAL POTENTIAL and its going to SUCCEED and make $$$ and make Bill Buck the next Bill Gates and build a space-station in the year 2008 and cure cancer and travel back in time to discover how pyramids were built.  

This is getting old.  

To those of you who calmly explained sound business ideals and realistic expectations to the thread originator, I applaud you.  To those of you who took it upon yourselves to flame away needlessly (because you KNOW redrumloa isn't going to moderate on a OS4 bashing thread) I give you the bronx cheer and icy glares in your general direction.

pfeh...   :madashell:

[CU_AMiGA]

that_punk_guy wrote:

CU_AMiGA wrote:
Out of all operating systems, Amiga OS 4 is clearly the better mint. IMHO

But it won't be sucessful in bringing down M$ and taking ovr the world, etc. That's the point.

oh dear!  :-(

The only other possiblities could be making OS 4 multiformat, but that will take development time and that. It must be possible cos M$ has done ever so well in selling a bollocks operating system over the years (maybe not XP). They have down really well considering.

[CU_AMiGA]

legion wrote:

mikeymike wrote:
@ everyone

I was going to write something here, but it's another one of those same old threads, same old arguments, same old retorts.  Can we just not bother for a change?

Oh c'mon mikeymike, CLEARLY a positive comment about OS4, though maybe naive in nature, deserves a *thorough* trouncing!!  I mean, everybody KNOWS that OS4 is going to fall flat on its face.  But MorphOS?  Now, THERE is an OS with REAL POTENTIAL and its going to SUCCEED and make $$$ and make Bill Buck the next Bill Gates and build a space-station in the year 2008 and cure cancer and travel back in time to discover how pyramids were built.  

This is getting old.  

To those of you who calmly explained sound business ideals and realistic expectations to the thread originator, I applaud you.  To those of you who took it upon yourselves to flame away needlessly (because you KNOW redrumloa isn't going to moderate on a OS4 bashing thread) I give you the bronx cheer and icy glares in your general direction.

pfeh...   :madashell:

I would laugh so much at you if Amiga OS 4 did actually come out you smug ####.

[Valan]

I should have added that what made the Amiga great and still worthwhile, IMHO, is that it allowed users to do what they wanted.

An over enthasised but little understood fact is that the Amiga was not a small machine playing catchup. It was cutting edge and as much power as the desktop had ever seen. This in itself was enough in its day but added to that the Amiga allowed ordinary users to reach out to the high end, to do what only highly trained proffesionals had done before. DPaint seems crude now but I canremember doing things which I had seen done only on Quantel systems on tv.
Hyperion and Eyetech seem bored by the mundane act they have no choice but to do and they are looking forward to doing the work they really wish to do.
Finaly, OS4 is only bringing the OS partially upto date, it does not and is not meant to surpass anything. It is simply a neccessary step.

My guess is that the real excitement comes beyond OS4 or even OS5.

Valan

Well, that's what drinking brandy with the inlaws does, take care.

[mikeymike]

@ CU_AMiGA

I think legion was being sarcastic.

@ legion

Show me a comment that deserves moderation in this thread.  Otherwise don't slate Amiga.org staff needlessly.

[CU_AMiGA]

sorry

[nac]

Is it the general opinion that the release of AOS 4 will unite the Amiga platform and users and give a definite standard where we can all start?

I know there are a few alternative OS's around but I have no experience of any of these. I am wondering if there is already too much fragmentation in the community. Will people who use one of the alternatives want to switch to AOS 4? Although I understand that you would need a PPC machine for  AOS 4.