Dr. Greg Perry of GPSoftware on Directory Opus for AmigaOS 4

[Targhan]

This is *NOT* good. No, not good at all.

I am not pleased about this.  Not much else to say, ATM.

[Warrent]

I may be off on this, but the way I see this is that Dopus maybe not be included with OS4.  So, it that is the case, then for those who like Dopus, then install it on OS4.  I do not see any reason why it would not run on OS4.  So, it will still be there for those who like it.

[JurassicCamper]

While it would be nice. I've never really been an fan of DOPUS.

Call me old school but workbench and a CLI window is all i need.

[Wilse]

While it would be nice. I've never really been an fan of DOPUS.

No, nor was I. I would occassionally load it up if I had move a lot of files around. Otherwise I never used it.
However this is not good publicity.
I'd like to see someone from Hyperion make a statement on this.

Ben? Anyone?

[createcoms]

Hyperion is a good company.

Dont be quick to judge this situation...............

[SlimJim]

Why does there always have to be some people starting to
insult one of the parties in situations like this? It's extremely
childish you know, especially since I bet you you are basing
 this "new opinion" of Dr Perry on this one single announcment. Stupid.
 
I didn't like/use Dopus much in the past, but I know many
did.

 Let's hope everything is worked out. I must say though
that it's a little annoying that they go public about it like
this.
 
 Hearing the Hyperion side (on AIS4 ML) I got the
impression that the mentions of trouble from the Dopus
team came right out of the blue for them when Dr. Perry
posted on Dopus ML (It was one of the Friedens that said
that though, don't know how soon they would know of such
things, it's more of a Ben Hermans-thing).
.
SlimJim

[boing_net]

Given this issue was raised several months ago as referred to here by Bill Hoggett, I fail to see how anyone could claim it "came out of the blue".

I have met Dr Perry at numerous events and have found him to be a most honourable and honest chap.

I have no idea on what the situation is but I don't doubt the sincerity of Dr Perry.  I add my input here as I know one of the parties concerned.

[jumpship]

OK Very stupid question, but what the heck is DOpus? I why would I need it?

I mean I don't use an Amiga very much anymore,  although I do use WinUAE for emails, word processing and some web browsing, but I get by very well without it and WinUAE with 3.9 feels very much the same as Windows.

[zacman]

I remember he already claimed a few months back
that he hasn't got any money yet and that all the
emails he send to Hyperion were not answered. I
remember the sentence: "Anybody knows if
Hyperion still exists?"

Ben said back then that there is no problem and they
simply had not enough time IIRC.

[Wilse]

OK Very stupid question, but what the heck is DOpus? I why would I need it?

It's a file management tool that can be used as a workbench replacement. Very useful for, well, file management. :-)

WinUAE with 3.9 feels very much the same as Windows.

What!?!?!? I hope to fek it doesn't! :-?

[DaveP]

Given that everyone seems to focus on Hyperion so far, lets take a look at Mr Perry.

Im sorry but even back then Greg asked a stupid
question "do they still exist" knowing the answer
I mean it is not as if Australasia isnt connected
to the Internet, cannot access Hyperions mailing
lists, Amiga.org or ANN.

"I remember he already claimed a few months back
that he hasn't got any money yet and that all the
emails he send to Hyperion were not answered. I
remember the sentence: "Anybody knows if
Hyperion still exists?"

Ben said back then that there is no problem and they
simply had not enough time IIRC."

Greg is another example of yet another Amiga
based ( although most of the products are Windows
these days ) entreprenuer that likes to use the
"community" to exert pressure on other companies
and play the victim game. Playing to the gallery anyone?

Greg personally might be a decent enough chap but
his business methods stink and AmigaOS4 would
be well shot of DOpus and him in my view.

There is something quite fishy about this and I wouldnt take Gregs word on the matter.

this.respectForGregPerry--;

[zacman]

>Im sorry but even back then Greg asked a stupid
>question "do they still exist" knowing the answer

Sorry but I don't understand you. I mean he hasn't
got the money yet and negotiations seem to have
stopped. Even back in May(?) Hyperion *confirmed*
that they haven't payed him yet. So this guy has all
rights to complain about that. Of course he could
also have just sued them for not paying as for
example every other employee would do if his
company doesn't pay him.

[jumpship]

@Wilse

When I said that 3.9 "feels" like Windows I mean in terms of drag and drop, moving files around etc.

Everyone seemd to be on that OS4 without "DOpus" will be rubbish, all I ment is that I use 3.9 the same way that I can use Windows. Not to say 3.9 is the same as Windows, because we all know it isn't ;-)

[DaveP]

"Sorry but I don't understand you."
Well read it again. Im sure it will come clear.

" I mean he hasn't
got the money yet and negotiations seem to have
stopped."
Did I say anything about that? No. I said that asking
if they still exist was clearly playing to the gallery and
was a stupid question.

" Even back in May(?) Hyperion *confirmed*
that they haven't payed him yet. So this guy has all
rights to complain about that. Of course he could
also have just sued them for not paying as for
example every other employee would do if his
company doesn't pay him. "
Or he could have picked up the frickin phone, faxed or got a
solicitor to send a warning letter with an invoice.

Going straight from email to public announcements on the web is strange practise. It is almost
as if he wants to cause maximum embarrassment and reduce
the potential to sort this out amicably to zero in BOTH cases
this and the LAST(May). Thats my problem with him, none
of the rest of it ( if he has a valid complaint or not ) is
any of our business.

His business methods stink. There is something political
about this.

I have had to negotiate with non payment debtors to me ( one and
a half million pounds anyone? )
and you NEVER do it this way. It is pointless showmanship
and is just frankly a juvenile way to manage a business
relationship.

[jumpship]

Or he could have picked up the frickin phone, faxed or got a solicitor to send a warning letter with an invoice.

I agree, I find it a shame that something like this is again being brought into public. It is very bad business practise. I mean how many credit card companies send out a global email (or a posting on a public forum) saying that they couldn't get payment from one of thier customers?

Tho this does seem to be the norm in the wonderful world of Amiga

[Warrent]

"Going straight from email to public announcements on the web is strange practise. It is almost
as if he wants to cause maximum embarrassment and reduce
the potential to sort this out amicably to zero in BOTH cases
this and the LAST(May). Thats my problem with him, none
of the rest of it ( if he has a valid complaint or not ) is
any of our business.

His business methods stink. There is something political
about this."


Hummm, I wasn't even thinking about why this has gone public?  I do not know the answer, but as stated this is not a normal business method.  In that regard it is sad to see this happen.  I would hope that the two parties will talk to "each" other and maybe work out a good deal for both.  Again I do not see the big deal of having Dopus shipped with OS4 as to installing it later.  If I want to use Dopus on OS4 I will be able to do so.  Maybe that is one of things that is brothering Perry, knowing that Dopus may not be part of OS4?