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AuthorTopic: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegasos  (Read 6895 times)

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Offline System

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2002, 02:31:11 PM »
>>you definately won't be able to trademark "April".

>Wow you have no idea about trademark law.


That was well worth posting.
Why would that be? Care to elucidate why I know nothing about trademark law? Is the law that anyone can just put a TM after something and it suddenly becomes their trademark.

Please I'll admit I know nothing about trademark law, so do tell me all about it and why the word "April" could possibly be trademarked.
 

Offline Balti

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2002, 02:32:30 PM »
>Maybe it is a PCI chip that offers USB2, >Firewire and something else?

That would be a southbridge, possible but I don't see what should
be wrong about the VIA-one used on the current board.

Maybe a special low-power SB for the eclipsis ?

>Or AGA on a chip?

Cool, but a total waste of money.

>Who knows. The whole press release is fluff.

Like we didn't allready get more than enough of those from zthe other side,

>I bet they are orgasming over on ANN over this
>chip that no-one knows the purpose of.

Spritz  :-P
Earl Baltasar, Clanwolf of Takkatukka.
Merchant of the 2nd epoche.

*grummel*
 

Offline zacman

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2002, 02:36:22 PM »
>Please I'll admit I know nothing about trademark
>law, so do tell me all about it and why the
>word "April" could possibly be trademarked

You can't register a word that is used in the same
sector in which you want your product to be in.

example: You can't call a fruit machine "Apple", but you can call a computer system "Apple".

The windows trademark is different. It has nothing
todo with the fact that those are "normal english
words". The problem with the Windows trademark
is that "Windows" was used to describe certain
functionality on a desktop OS even before Microsoft
registered it.
 

Offline Hattig

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2002, 02:39:14 PM »
The current southbridge on the Pegasos only offers USB1, and the Firewire is on another chip. So by making a single ASIC with both USB2 and Firewire, and perhaps other functionality on it, they can add more features to the motherboard without needing more board space.

However I don't expect this to be what this Fool(tm) chip does.
 

Offline System

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2002, 02:44:45 PM »
My understanding was that windows is a generic word

http://law.freeadvice.com/intellectual_property/trademark_law/trademark_not_register.htm

As you can see you cannot trademark Generic words.

The word April seems pretty generic to me, but I may be wrong.
 

Offline Balti

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2002, 02:56:37 PM »
@Akura

Trademarks a national, for example "Amiga" is:

Computer-company in the US (not really).
Record-label in east Germany (till 91 or 92)
A generic word in spanish countries.

Some goes for "Apple" (Mac or Beatles ?)
Earl Baltasar, Clanwolf of Takkatukka.
Merchant of the 2nd epoche.

*grummel*
 

Offline Wilse

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2002, 03:20:22 PM »
> I'm sure "BBRV" will appear extolling the virtues

Hmm, I thought they would too.
Notable by their absence.
I know it's only recent news but they're usually quick off the mark.
 :-?

Offline Blomberg

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2002, 03:50:14 PM »
Erm ... I'm sitting here looking at my Windows cd and even though my eyes are not the best I would swear that there's a little (R) next to 'Windows' (and 'Microsoft' of course).

Offline bbrv

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2002, 04:08:28 PM »
Hi!

What is wrong, some of you cannot stand the suspense?

;-)

Well, here is a little more information:

1. We did not have any problems achieving the trademark, although this is a phased process, first France, then Europe, etc.  It depends on your filing date.  You will see there are no other "computer components" with such a name.  Zacman is on target.

2.  The April can do more than the Articia alone -- did you guys miss the AA part?  ;-)  It is a lady's name!  OK, seriously, we will clarify this in Aachen.

Here are some other points to consider:

We have a Pegasos Debian PPC CD-bootable distro that runs Mac-on-Linux now (and it comes WITH the machine).

The Pegasos is less expensive and does more.

The Pegasos has Open Firmware

The Pegasos has a better form factor and layout, and more interfaces included, for instance firewire.

To bring the machine up, you install hardrive, connect monitor, keyboard, etc., put in the memorystick, power on and then in next couple of seconds you have a fully working MorphOS desktop on display.  :-)

Check it out at www.pegasos-uk.com

And, finally, yes it is a promotional approach, but at least we do pay for our advertising and we have supported every show we could have in the last few months.

Hey, we are trying!

Kind regards,
R&B
 :-D

Offline xeron

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2002, 04:12:57 PM »
Quote

2. The April can do more than the Articia alone


Right. But what ACTUAL FUNCTIONALITY does it add? :-?
Playstation Network ID: xeron6
 

Offline Hattig

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2002, 04:19:45 PM »
Quote
2. The April can do more than the Articia alone -- did you guys miss the AA part?  It is a lady's name! OK, seriously, we will clarify this in Aachen.


What does it do? Simple Question. No Answer. All too familiar.

And OpenFirmware - who cares. At least the AmigaOne will properly initialise all PCI cards with x86 ROMs.

"Better" form factor and layout? Says who? If a case is ATX then it can hold both ATX and MATX boards, so there is no problem there. And at least an ATX case gives you enough space to put drives. And better layout - surely this is subjective, and I had heard rumours that the "better" layout had caused some issues in the past that needed to be fixed.

And that is how most computers work. Nothing special with Pegasos.

And finally, what does this vapor "Alice" chip do? Otherwise what is the point of the press release, apart from to create threads against bThenesidicfranceplan?
 

Offline Wilse

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2002, 04:24:53 PM »
Quote
2. The April can do more than the Articia alone -- did you guys miss the AA part?  It is a lady's name! OK, seriously, we will clarify this in Aachen.


Why not now?

Offline Balti

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2002, 04:30:28 PM »
@Hattig

"newsflash"
The Pegasos can take x86, and that since far longer than the A1.

Both boards do suffer from the same Articia-bug, and probraly
had problems of their own, but who cares ? The quality of
the end-product is what counts.
Earl Baltasar, Clanwolf of Takkatukka.
Merchant of the 2nd epoche.

*grummel*
 

Offline SlimJim

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2002, 04:39:53 PM »
> Why not now?
 
Because this is a marketing stunt.
 
Got to hand it to Bill & the gang, they sure know how to
do the PR in this little curious community. Instead of
people saying "so what - the AOne has that and that..."
all is now gabbing on about what features we
could be talking about in this "mystery chip". Lots of
 attention, lots of exposure - with many Amigans looking
 for announcments at the Aachen show that otherwise
wouldn't bother.
 
Ordered my AOne yesterday, so I'm pretty much immune
(can't afford a Pegasos, even if i wanted one), but I must
still congratulate Thendic for having probably the
cleverest (sneakiest?) PR-department around. Good for
them!
.
SlimJim
 

Offline blubbe

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2002, 04:55:30 PM »
Hehe.. the impatient people cannot sit still for three
days now :)

edit: wish I could be on Aachen though, seems
to hold lots of fun.
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