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Offline JurassicCamper

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2002, 09:29:01 PM »
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Offline Kay

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2002, 11:00:53 PM »
> http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html  

Nice link! Now for my question to bbrv: Does this new chip facilitate value-added infrastructures?

Kay
 

Offline Blomberg

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2002, 11:24:47 PM »
Or maybe it can strategize magnetic action-items?  :-D

Offline zacman

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2002, 11:29:19 PM »
Please don't use the fleecy generator too often. It
might get damaged.
 

Offline strobe

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2002, 12:01:21 AM »
The announcement is designed to create attention for the Aachen show.

Is it any different than Amiga Inc. announcing that there would be a huge announcement at WOASE? (all it turned out to be was the MS deal)
 

Offline System

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2002, 03:11:28 AM »
The chip has a brand new version of Amithlon built right in.

You don't have to pay for the software anymore.
 

Offline Dagon

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2002, 07:24:43 AM »
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2. The April can do more than the Articia alone -- did you guys miss the AA part? It is a lady's name! OK, seriously, we will clarify this in Aachen.

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To bring the machine up, you install hardrive, connect monitor, keyboard, etc., put in the memorystick, power on and then in next couple of seconds you have a fully working MorphOS desktop on display.


Something tells me that it is a custom chip that contains also something about GFX!!! What was the AA? Why didn`t he mention a gfx card and he first mentioned a harddrive? (maybe that would be in the etc :-P)

Anyway it would be very cool to have a custom chip but not necessary ( a must) read my opinion about custom chips here
\\"So we must exercise ourselves in the things which bring happiness, since, if that be present, we have everything, and, if that be absent, all our actions are directed towards attaining it\\" - Epicurus
 

Offline bbrv

Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegasos
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2002, 07:47:53 AM »
OK, last word before Aachen Show....

The is no Mai without April.  The Articia does not work as promoted.  There.  We have said it.  Everything that has been promised for the AmigaOne and the Pegasos will not work without April -- April is *mostly* a "patch."   With April the Articia will work as advertised, without April the Articia will not.  Betatesters of the A1 and the "Betatester (Pegasos)" know that there are difficulties.  

In September and October bplan developed the "patch" with Mai.  There is no other patch for the Articia and there was no other assistance from anyone else in creating it.    This is why the Pegasos, A1 and Teron are not available in quantity and  why they will not be until the patch is mounted on the respective PCBs and shipped.  

Check out the estimated shipping dates at the YDL site.  Do you think they will get anywhere else sooner?  Where is the biggest market?  Is it MorphOS and OS4, or is it LinuxPPC?  Where do you think Mai will focus?  Not here (MorphOS/OS4)!  Our sales commitments for the first 1000 Pegasos went 817 to Linux and the rest to this community (less two for OpenBSD and two for OpenBeOS).

Mai does not care about this market.   They care about the Linux market.  They want to sell the Articia and their board.  They make chips and want to sell them.  LinuxPPC is a bigger market for them.  That will be their new focus.  We are the poor stepchild now.  Please forget all the delusions about the new Amiga or the Pegasos that will re-conquer the world when the hardware shows up.  If we want success this is going to be hard work and a long haul.

In the meanwhile, you won't have to worry about MorphOS or OS4 being pirated by someone here now.  There is a whole new world of potential users with an OpenSource/Freeware  mentality that is about to consume this market and make it more irrelevant.  This is a post-Napster world.... and Napster was only the beginning.  Individual "freedom" has replaced respect for others.  Something is wrong with this picture and it needs to be fixed, but it will not happen with dongles.

If this community wants a future it needs to start working together.  We are spending plenty of money to make the Pegasos successful, but it is not our final focus.  We are a niche market -- both OS4 and MorphOS.  We need unity if we want to be more than a lingering historical footnote.

The Mai story is not over yet.  The first patch is not enough.  We figured this out in November when Mai was scurrying back to Tiawan to make what they thought would be the final solution.  It is not.  There are more problems.  We finally solved all this a week and a half ago.  Plus, we have added a couple of other features that are better accomplished in hardware than software (and don't believe a few lines of code will make the first patch work).  If YDL sets off on their current course, they will "crash and burn" in a month after they finally introduce the product.  The Linux market is unforgiving when it comes to hardware bugs.  With all the success they will seem to achieve their liability will grow correspondingly.

Before you think this is another marketing stunt, here is something new.  We know what Eyetech pays for the Teron/A1; we know what the A1 distributors pay.  We would be willing to match the prices all around less 5% and provide an immediate solution to the community.  We make the Pegasos.  Eyetech does not.  We have many of the same distributors.  We can compensate Allan Redhouse through his success (something he is clearly about to loose with YDL Teron pricing).  Hyperion too.  Oh yes, you want to buy a G4 A1?  Wake up people!  Read the disclaimers on the YDL site.  Do you understand what needs to happen before this will?  There is a Pegasos G4 now.  The question is not how fast the processor *can* work, the issue is how fast the processor *does* work!  Let's get better organized.  We are about to be crushed.  

If we pulled eveyone together on this we might even honor those $50 coupons!  :-D

This market and community is in complete confusion.  There is no leadership or vision and we need both fast or we can forget it.  This is a public statement in good faith to Eyetech and Hyperion.  Allan and Ben are formidible marketing opponents.  We can forget the past if you can.  We need to get into the same boat.  Amiga Inc. has lost its leadership mantel.  Selling coupons, promoting unachievable concepts and making wild claims about the next deal have worn tired and false.  Fortunately, all have not blindly followed this route and Hyperion and Eyetech have a solid agreement in place that protects them in the event of Amiga Inc bankruptcy.  And, before you think this is a "group hug" thing, we have paid our King County, Washigton legal counsel a retainer.  We will commence legal action against Amiga Inc. this month.  This is not some "get legal" BS.  This is business and the Amiga Inc. management do not understand what business is.  They "blew it" and we have had enough of their interference in our future.

The whole Mai/YDL collaboration has changed the situation dramatically.   We hope this statement helps you understand this better.

We will give Hyperion a board.  We will support the A1 Betatesters as we have our own.  We don't have to trade sources or get Ralph having a beer with Ben, but we could all move ahead this way.  Eyetech can certify the Pegasos to meet Amiga specifications -- they are positioned to do this.  Hyperion and Eyetech can promote OS4.  Great.  We might even develop some collaborative efforts quickly.  We should.

Things are moving very fast.  We have alot to do.  Thanks for reading this post and please think about it carefully.  See you in Aachen!

Sincerely,

Raquel and Bill

 :-)

Offline Dagon

Re: OK, last word before Aachen Show....
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2002, 08:16:43 AM »
:-)
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Offline Wilse

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2002, 08:49:30 AM »
> OK, last word before Aachen Show....

Some strong statements there......

Offline Senex

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2002, 09:51:52 AM »
bbrv made the necessity to cooperate within the Amiga-market quite obvious. Let's hope the spirit of the advent season quiets their minds and Allan Redhouse, Ben Hermans and Bill Buck come to some agreements in Aachen, maybe on the "Weihnachtsmarkt".
 

Offline Elektro

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2002, 10:05:12 AM »






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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2002, 10:08:54 AM »
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bbrv made the necessity to cooperate within the Amiga-market quite obvious. Let's hope the spirit of the advent season quiets their minds and Allan Redhouse, Ben Hermans and Bill Buck come to some agreements in Aachen, maybe on the "Weihnachtsmarkt".


I thought that Eyetech and Hyperion wasn't going to the show (do they have anything to show)?

But an agreement should be very nice indeed. Everyone would benefit from this. The community and the companies themselves. Perhaps mostly the Eyetech/Hyperion camp. It would give them a flying start.

(Well, if that kind of cooperation would become a reality, it would be no need anymore to speak about "camps" and "us and them" anymore. Everyone would benefit from this, IMHO!)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline System

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2002, 10:15:18 AM »
Hi,

>(Well, if that kind of cooperation would become a reality, it would be no need anymore to speak about "camps" and "us and them" anymore. Everyone would benefit from this, IMHO!)

I second that! Let's hope something good comes out of this!

Cheers,
Ron
 

Offline Elektro

Re: Genesi announces completion of April (TM) chip for Pegas
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2002, 10:22:41 AM »
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