AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM

[Piru]

@paolone

MorphOS supports shutdown on Pegasos2 and EFIKA (and Mac Mini).

In fact, MorphOS calls the resethandlers before powering down. This way for example AmIRC will quit before the system actually shuts down.

The shutdown is lightning fast, too. If there are no slow resethandlers around the shutdown is immediate.

[EDIT]typofix[/EDIT]

[TiredOLife]

Gebrochen wrote:
@ Bloodine:
@ Dammy:

Can you guys please tell me what Amiga's you guys own, Im just curious?
I have noticed that the users on any of the forums that are really proud to be amiga users, have a listing as their signature. So, Does that mean you guys, and people like you, only use your amigas once a week? once a month?

I could be wrong here, but, it is something that I have been noticing.

Cheers.
 :-D

You know where you can shove that idea don't you?  ;-)

My Amigas aren't listed in my signature, and if I was you, I wouldn't attempt to say I'm not a proud Amiga owner.
At least no if your within arms length of me anyway. :-D

I work in an IT section and am forever trying to set the other supposedly IT experts onto the true path.

I see a lot of negative anti peecee postings on here which obviously I applaud. :lol:

But some of us have longer memories and are still anti atari as well .

That's true commitment to the cause, let me tell you. :-D

And yes one of my Amigas is a Sam and yes it is an Amiga.
If someone as bitter as me says it's an Amiga, there is no need to be listening to anything Amiga Inc may or may not say.  ;-)

@Persia

Please, please, please get rid of the insect.
What inducements would it take for you to comply?  :lol:

[drHirudo]

And yes one of my Amigas is a Sam and yes it is an Amiga.
If someone as bitter as me says it's an Amiga, there is no need to be listening to anything Amiga Inc may or may not say.  ;-)

Do you know by saying that one of your Amigas is a SAM, you don't comply with the opinion of one of the experts here? Please easy with these statements. You may harass some AF owner and he may seek for personal vendetta in years.

[paolone]

Piru wrote:
@paolone

MorphOS supports shutdown on Pegasos2 and EFIKA (and Mac Mini).

In fact, MorphOS calls the resethandlers before powering down. This way for example AmIRC will quit before the system actually shuts down.

The shutdown is lighting fast, too. If there are no slow resethandlers around the shutdown is immediate.

I wish I had some device to play with MorphOS a little, but unluckily I haven't money to waste in computers I don't really need...  :roll:

So please forgive my ignorance.

[pixie]

paolone wrote:

Piru wrote:
@paolone

MorphOS supports shutdown on Pegasos2 and EFIKA (and Mac Mini).

In fact, MorphOS calls the resethandlers before powering down. This way for example AmIRC will quit before the system actually shuts down.

The shutdown is lighting fast, too. If there are no slow resethandlers around the shutdown is immediate.

I wish I had some device to play with MorphOS a little, but unluckily I haven't money to waste in computers I don't really need...  :roll:

So please forgive my ignorance.

And why do you have a Sam then? :-P

[takemehomegrandma]

drHirudo wrote: (and I removed all trollish flame bait)

takemehomegrandma wrote:
Perhaps they made as many as 50 in the first batch? And now another 50?

I know there  are more than your wild estimation, because I know more than 51 people who bought SAM.

Could you list them here?

Any other wild, irrelevant, unbiased, non informative sentences you have to add to the thread

Sorry if I upset you, I'm just trying to be a bit realistic here. Maybe 50+50 is an understatement, maybe 200 would be more realistic, I don't know, but if so it would be interesting if you or anyone else could enlighten me with some *realistic* assumptions instead of just vomiting all over the place? I haven't seen *anything* in online forums that suggests "thousands" as you said before. If only a minor part of the users would acknowledge themselves in online forums (which was more true a few years ago than now IMHO), then I would say that less than 100 is a reasonable assumption. And you have to take into account that the price is so high that most people would hesitate even if the hardware hadn't been so underpowered. I don't think it's as easy to sell as you want to believe. "Thousands" today is all Amiga users combined, which includes all the classic flavors (the majority), emulators, MorphOS, AROS, and the whole shebang.

[mikrucio]

woot another post for me!

[Gebrochen]

@ Paolone:

It seems like you have simply gotton used to the sheepish off style system.

Personally what you say is rubbish, using and clicking with the mouse already wastes seconds versus push of off Button.

Another note, Have you considered the fact that maybe we should start having tv systems operating the same way, whereby you have to go into a menu first to turn it off??

Wouldnt that be a fantastical idea (NOT)

Anyway, clearly some of you on here have no appreciation of the simplicity, and actually want extra steps to do things.

@ Dr Hirudo:
I agree with you, the new Amiga OS4.1 and sam440ep are a nice little match make, I still havent found a need to even turn on my xp machine, and its been over 2 weeks now since I recieved the sam440ep amiga system.

THAT, just prooves that even a new found user, like myself, with lack of knowledge of how to operate an Amiga OS can easily adjust themselves to an OS that lets the user control the OS.

@ All,

I still am happy I made the decision to buy an Amiga system versus the other OS's. BUt I will say, I am happy to use Ubuntu or Debian alongside the Amiga OS.

[Gebrochen]

@ Tired Of Life:

I can not remember bringing you into this conversation??
Nor do I remeber even being against anything you have said in the past??

That aside, I am happy to hear you do that, I also like stating when asked or in a situation, that I use Amiga.

I have even placed it in my cv, alongsite computer literate, like this:

COmputer Literate : Amiga, Mac and PC



Cheers.

And, Calm down will you.

[paolone]

And why do you have a Sam then?

You wouldn't ever believe.  :roll:

[paolone]

by Gebrochen on 2008/11/27 3:24:11

@ Paolone:  It seems like you have simply gotton used to the sheepish off style system.  Personally what you say is rubbish, using and clicking with the mouse already wastes seconds versus push of off Button.

I could answer you haven't yet evolved and you're still handling a mace instead of using kindness, if you like this style of discussions (it wouldn't be a surprise anymore, though), but I prefer to point out that using a mouse or a push button to turn off computers is only a matter of habits. If my computer is placed under the desk, it is far more handy to shut it off with a menu command, than going down and look for a damn button near the foot of the case. So I propose to make peace and allow people turning off their computer how they like without stupid prejudices and silly assumptions.

[Piru]

@Gebrochen

Personally what you say is rubbish, using and clicking with the mouse already wastes seconds versus push of off Button.

ATX PSUs take 4 second to shut down when you force the shutdown from the power button. Shutdown command or menu option is faster than that (well it is on MorphOS at least).

[Painkiller]

One could always hack a traditional on/off switch to ATX PSU's wakeup signal That would be pretty instant.

[detz]

Piru wrote:
@Gebrochen

Personally what you say is rubbish, using and clicking with the mouse already wastes seconds versus push of off Button.

ATX PSUs take 4 second to shut down when you force the shutdown from the power button. Shutdown command or menu option is faster than that (well it is on MorphOS at least).

Are you sure you're not talking about the press and hold shutdown, which instantly powers off the PSU, as opposed to just pressing the button, which as far as I can tell is exactly the same as going 'Start->Shutdown->turn off computer' and starts immediately...

[jj]

And it takes at least 4 seconds when holdding down the power button to switch it off.

[Painkiller]

Yes, but what he meant was that pressing the power button once would send the command to OS for shutdown which would then imidiately shut it down. Just like in windows and every other OS I can tell it to shutdown if power button is pressed.