SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?

[Amithony]

skurk wrote:

Crom00 wrote:
Means I'd be out $700 or so to run a handful of software.

..and for a software developer (like me) that's gold :-)

That's one of the reasons I ordered mine; to populate this niche platform with more software.

Here here! I am thinking of doing the same. I just wanted to see if this is just a one off or if the demand is going to be enough to take the Amiga to newer heights. Its all very exciting. Imagine getting the formula right enough to re-spark an Amiga resurgence!

[Amithony]

x56h34 wrote:
If it were up to me I would continue developing AOS as a virtual machine for WMware. :-D

How BRILLIANT! I wonder how hard it would be to do.

[takemehomegrandma]

Amithony wrote:

Imagine getting the formula right enough to re-spark an Amiga resurgence!

Jahc likes to call his OS of choice AmigaOS4.1, and so does Hyperion. However, Amiga Inc (the IP owner) doesn't agree, and that's why they have submitted the lawsuit for trade mark infringement. Let's see what comes out of this law suit before speaking too much about Amiga resurgence based on Hyperion's OS, chances are you only will be disappointed if you invest too much hope in this one...

[Amithony]

takemehomegrandma wrote:

Amithony wrote:

Imagine getting the formula right enough to re-spark an Amiga resurgence!

Jahc likes to call his OS of choice AmigaOS4.1, and so does Hyperion. However, Amiga Inc (the IP owner) doesn't agree, and that's why they have submitted the lawsuit for trade mark infringement. Let's see what comes out of this law suit before speaking too much about Amiga resurgence based on Hyperion's OS, chances are you only will be disappointed if you invest too much hope in this one...

What if Amiga Inc realises the value that the hardware has and gets it's a$$ets into gear over building new products? Or if the people we support could afford to buy them out? It may be a pipe dream, but Amiga inc has truly let down its support base. Part of me hopes it loses so that people with vision and passion can carry on the legacy.

[bloodline]

Amithony wrote:

x56h34 wrote:
If it were up to me I would continue developing AOS as a virtual machine for WMware. :-D

How BRILLIANT! I wonder how hard it would be to do.

As easy as downloading the AROS i386 live CD...

[Amithony]

Is AROS any good? I haven't really seen it in action. Perhaps that's one for another thread.

[cicero790]

I envy your ability to do something useful with programming. I wish all programmers were aware that all three Amiga platforms need their support and knowledge.
Since there have been a lot of talk about AO4 and MOS I thought I balance it up by posting the specs for AROS as an reminder of how many computers in the world you could actually install it on, this very second.
From quick guide pdf at www.vmwaros.org . This is for the livecd hd install


2. Supported hardware


PROCESSORS
Intel: Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium III,
Pentium4, PentiumD, Core, Core2 Duo,
Core2 Quad
AMD: K6, K6-II, K6-III, Athlon, AthlonXP,
Athlon64, Athlon64 X2, Phenom, Duron,
Celeron

CHIPSETS
Any chipset supporting IDE/Atapi
operations with the processors above.

VIDEO
AMD/ATI Radeon cards, Nvidia TNT, TNT2
and GeForce cards, any VESA-compatible
card, including most integrated ones. Some
known problems with some Via, SiS and
Intel integrated GPUs.

SOUND
Any Nvidia and Intel AC97 compliant sound
adapter, Creative SoundBlaster
Live!/Audigy based on EMU10K1 DSP (no SB
Live! Value).

NETWORK
Any PCI network card based on RTL 8029, Etherlink 3, AMD Pcnet 32, Nvidia Nforce, intel
Pro-100. Partial support for RTL 8139. Using one of those is the only way to get
networking run on AROS. No modems supported yet.

KEYBOARDS AND MICE
Any PS/2 keyboard and mouse will work. USB models partially supported. In order to let
'em work, just use an adaptor or activate "USB Lecacy Support" in your BIOS.
If your USB mouse is not recognized, try opening a shell (rAros+W) and use one of these
commands:

HARD DRIVES AND OPTICAL ONES
Any EIDE/ATAPI hard drive or CD-ROM will be fully supported. Some AROS developers are
implementing Serial-ATA support in the operating system, however this version of
AROS doesn't contain experimental code. In order to let your SATA hard drive work
under AROS, you may try setting it as "Legacy ATA compatible" in your motherboard's
BIOS.

[Amithony]

I wonder if there are stats on how many OS4.1's have been sold?

[takemehomegrandma]

@cicero790

AROS also run on PPC, the Sam is already supported and the Efika support is progressing nicely as well! :-)

[cicero790]

@takemehomegrandma

It's great. I think all three, AOS, MOS and AROS have the possibility to do really well in the future. If someone of the three becomes extra succesfull it could pull the others. Just like Winuae probably pulled everything and brought alot of people back into Amigandom.

[dammy]

by A1260 on 2008/11/5 10:58:16

if you hate sam and amiga that much why dont you take your crappy eifka and stay on the morphos forums?. we dont need you here to spread your fud. to make it crystal clear once and for all, this is an AMIGA site and not morpohs site!

SAM440 is not an Amiga.  It's a Linux box, it's a AROS box, it's clearly NOT an Amiga.

Dammy

[Hans_]

dammy wrote:
by A1260 on 2008/11/5 10:58:16

if you hate sam and amiga that much why dont you take your crappy eifka and stay on the morphos forums?. we dont need you here to spread your fud. to make it crystal clear once and for all, this is an AMIGA site and not morpohs site!

SAM440 is not an Amiga.  It's a Linux box, it's a AROS box, it's clearly NOT an Amiga.

Dammy

... that just happens to be able to run Amiga OS 4.1. That makes it an Amiga in my view.

Hans

[Hans_]

Amithony wrote:
I wonder if there are stats on how many OS4.1's have been sold?

No, nor are their likely to be publicly available stats. However, the 533MHz Sam 440ep was sold out before Amiga OS 4.1 beta was even available and a few of the dealers were sold-out of their 667MHz units a week ago, so people are buying. An unknown of the 1000-2000 (estimated, probably closer to 1000) Amigaone users have also upgraded.

Hans

[bloodline]

Hans_ wrote:

dammy wrote:
by A1260 on 2008/11/5 10:58:16

if you hate sam and amiga that much why dont you take your crappy eifka and stay on the morphos forums?. we dont need you here to spread your fud. to make it crystal clear once and for all, this is an AMIGA site and not morpohs site!

SAM440 is not an Amiga.  It's a Linux box, it's a AROS box, it's clearly NOT an Amiga.

Dammy

... that just happens to be able to run Amiga OS 4.1. That makes it an Amiga in my view.

Hans

Now that is a dumb thing to say... My Mac can run AmigaOS 3.1 in UAE... That makes it an Amiga in my view...

[Hans_]

bloodline wrote:

Hans_ wrote:

dammy wrote:
by A1260 on 2008/11/5 10:58:16

if you hate sam and amiga that much why dont you take your crappy eifka and stay on the morphos forums?. we dont need you here to spread your fud. to make it crystal clear once and for all, this is an AMIGA site and not morpohs site!

SAM440 is not an Amiga.  It's a Linux box, it's a AROS box, it's clearly NOT an Amiga.

Dammy

... that just happens to be able to run Amiga OS 4.1. That makes it an Amiga in my view.

Hans

Now that is a dumb thing to say... My Mac can run AmigaOS 3.1 in UAE... That makes it an Amiga in my view...

You're Mac has to run Amiga OS under an emulator, on the SAM 440ep it runs natively. Regardless, it was a simple reply to Dammy's comment. Perhaps you could tell me why the SAM 440ep would be a Linux box, an AROS box but not an Amiga when it not only runs Amiga OS 4.1, but can be bought with Amiga OS 4.1 too.

Hans

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My Amiga 4000 can run Linux.  That obviously makes it a Linux box.