SAM 440 - What would owning one mean to you?

[uncleted]

My Amiga 4000 can run Linux.  That obviously makes it a Linux box.

[bigmac]

Settle down guys handbags away. Does it really matter which box runs what? Each to his or hers own technically speaking the original Amiga was defined by its 68000 family of processors and custom and innovative chipset.Now we have a variety of processors and chipsets running differant OS,s I,m lucky enough to have a Sam and 4.1 and I also have other Amigas running classic OS,s and IMHO each has its own positives and negatives.The way I see it is that we are lucky enough to have a diversity of hardware and software now, whether it be clasic Amiga PPC based or any other flavour lets just Enjoy!
 :-D Stay Happy.

[save2600]

AMEN!

[Lorraine]

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[dammy]

... that just happens to be able to run Amiga OS 4.1. That makes it an Amiga in my view.

You can call a beer can an Amiga if you want, won't make it so.  By your same POV, guess when I run AF on a x86, that makes that x86 an Amiga by your standards?

Dammy

[KimmoK]

about the cost when compared to Efika...

SAM+AOS4 700€ Efika+MOS 350€ (the nearest dealer)

Efika needs a display card (PCI or AGP card on a riser) which power/performance ratio is hardly any better than ATI M9. Efika needs 2.5" hard drive (they are very slow on all laptops that I've used).

SAM has two times more RAM, 4*SATA IDE interface, a lot faster CPU, a FREE PCI slot, DVI out and a lot of extra stuff that I might or might not use.

So, IMHO SAM is worth the "extra" price. (Surely if one could get 600Mhz peg1 betatester board+OS for 99€ or 199€ ... but those times are gone.)


(I will order MOS board someday, I just desided to go one at a time.) :-)

reading the thread further...

and btw.... x86 + AROS is an "Amiga" to me, I keep on checking when it easily runs natively on a x86 box, preferably AcerOne laptop (might not happen, but I would also love Amithlon kind of hosting for x86)

reading more ...

Sure, also I spotted the redtail board in bbrv's web blog. It looks interesting for a desktop/laptop/kiosk "Amiga".
Perhaps MOS and/or AOS4 will be available for something like that someday, now when they are not tied to any single HW manufacturer.

[Hans_]

dammy wrote:

... that just happens to be able to run Amiga OS 4.1. That makes it an Amiga in my view.

You can call a beer can an Amiga if you want, won't make it so. By your same POV, guess when I run AF on a x86, that makes that x86 an Amiga by your standards?

Dammy

That was just a silly reply to your silly comment. However, seeing as you insist: the SAM 440ep runs Amiga OS 4.1 natively, not in an emulator. Also, you can actually buy it with Amiga OS 4.1.

You called it a Linux box because it can run Linux, and an AROS box because AROS also runs on it. Amiga OS 4.1 also runs on it (natively), so by what leap of logic is it not also an "Amiga box"?

Hans

[Tension]

The ONLY thing I use my A4000T these days for is OctaMED Soundstudio.

I`d like to be able to use it for everything, but things are starting to go wrong. I think one of the CIAs is gone cos I cant print correctly. The sound is wrong, and sometimes the thing wont boot first time or else the caps light stays on solid and keyboard doesnt work.  The right mouse button jams even when the mouse is unplugged!!

It`s happening more and more. Anybody know why?

[TiredOLife]

takemehomegrandma wrote:

Amithony wrote:

Imagine getting the formula right enough to re-spark an Amiga resurgence!

Jahc likes to call his OS of choice AmigaOS4.1, and so does Hyperion. However, Amiga Inc (the IP owner) doesn't agree, and that's why they have submitted the lawsuit for trade mark infringement. Let's see what comes out of this law suit before speaking too much about Amiga resurgence based on Hyperion's OS, chances are you only will be disappointed if you invest too much hope in this one...

That's a pretty bold statement.
Hyperion are under the impression they are the IP owner.

If there was no dispute there would be no court case.

Can't see where the disappointment is coming from.
One you have bought Sam and OS4.1, nobody from Amiga Inc will be round your house to take it back (Should they win)

As for Sam and 4.1, nobody who has bought the combination has been disappointed with it as far as I am aware.

Anyone who thinks it isn't an Amiga, my advice is to try it for yourself.

If it looks like an elephant, sounds like an elephant and acts like an elephant, then chances are it is an elephant.

(And please, no jokes about white elephants)

[recidivist]

Almost certainly one of the CIA has gone bad ;get thee to a repairman!

The 500/2000 you could just unplug chips but I think your 4000  has soldered ones.(I don't have a 4000 to check.)

[recidivist]

Yep;if you want anew Amiga and can afford the SAM/4.1 pack it makes sense to get it now.There isn't any other new Amiga computer.

I still would like to see the Dragon and Shark.


I am considering a $99 efika:anyone running Amiga OS on it?
Anyone found a way to get more than 128Mag ram?

[TheMagicM]

what it means to me is that I didnt put the crack pipe down and made a terrible decision.  Fortunately I dont do crack so I'm a-ok!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


recidivist:
You cant run AmigaOS on the EFIKA unless its through e-uae.  Get an EFIKA, its awesome or wait for something faster to come out and get that instead.

[redfox]

@Amithony

Currently running AmigaOS 4.1 on MicroA1-C.  The following details some of my observations about my own system.  I am looking forward to a live demo of SAM 440.

The MicroA1-C has onboard Radeon 7000 graphics with 32 MBytes of video RAM.  This is not quite enough video RAM to run a carefree environment with full-blown hardware accelerated compositing modes.  Eventually, the system will slow down or freeze.  I usually run my system with the compositing modes turned off.  My windows have square corners and less transparency effects.  No big deal.  My system is stable and functional and my applications run fine.  If I am careful, I can turn on compositing modes and demonstrate the eye candy, but I have to keep an eye on my free video RAM.

So how does this relate to the SAM 440 ?

The Sam440ep has 64 MBytes of video RAM, so there should be no restrictions on the compositing modes and eye candy.

I have a chance to see a Sam440 running OS4.1 next week at a live demo.  If it performs as I expect, I will be ordering one shortly afterwards.

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redfox
MicroA1-C + AmigaOS 4.1

[redfox]

@All

Just want to make perfectly clear that I am not here to pick any fights or push any adgendas.  My definition of Amiga is very broad and inclusive.  Some of you run Winuae or Amithlon or other emulations.  I also have E-UAE available on my OS4 system.  It allows me to install programs which require the old installer program and to run some old favourites which require the classic chipset.  Some of you have classic Amiga systems.  I have also owned an Amiga 2000HD for many years.  Some of you own other systems.  That is fine with me.  There is room for all of us.

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redfox

[jj]

@ redfox

what sort of speeds do you get running on euae on the micro A1, amiga 500 full speeed or better?

@ everyone else

have any of you with sams tried doing the same, what sort of speeds do you get.

have any of you with effikas tried this ?

[Amithony]

dammy wrote:

SAM440 is not an Amiga.  It's a Linux box, it's a AROS box, it's clearly NOT an Amiga.

Dammy

I disagree from the perspective that the operating system is very much an Amiga. Clearly it's the best product to hit the market since OS4. Does the fact that MAC move to intel stop it from being a MAC? I think not. Enjoy the fact that the Amiga OS has extended its life span, even if it is short lived, its better than what we have had for quite some time. I think that the SAM is going to out perform my 68060 when I put it next to it. Then I will tell you whether or not it truly is an Amiga in the full sense of the word.