The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.

[Rudei]

Might`ve known it`d be a MOS freak who started this thread

[greenboy]

Akey, I could present quite the timeline of who was frustrated and why. But I left it at that, and mentioned the word "perspective" a few times, because it's pretty much a waste of time at this point, when there are plenty of real things to do.

Maybe I'll write something later about why Genesi has been a good fit - and why Amiga Inc was just a good cause to have a fit  ;  }

But I doubt I'll waste much time on that.

[Tomas]

Incorrect. Teron mobos would be out there, regardless of what Bill has and has not done. MOS and AROS would still be out there as well as the Pegasus.

I was not talking about the pegasos and morphos...
I was talking about the AmigaONE and AmigaOS4.0.

[Tomas]

What would you call the AmigaONE as it is today?

A computer running linux  :-P I was only saying that AmigaINC has managed to do more than Gateway did.

[CodeSmith]

@bhoggett:

Sorry, but the signal to hatred ratio is just way too low for me.

When I read stuff like that marriage license debacle I wonder about the people who post such stuff... mean, nasty little people who derive pleasure from dragging others down and kicking them while they're on the floor.  If an earthquake happened during an amiga convention, those would be the people I'd expect to find stealing watches from the injured.  If anyone reading this feels insulted, go ahead and flame me, I don't care for the feelings of vermin.

This is not a pro-anyone rant - I have no doubts that if it were Bill Buck that had stumbled instead of Bill McEwen, he'd be getting the same tender loving care.

I have no idea if moobunny is moderated, if it is I'd really like to know what the "guidelines" are.

[Targhan]

@CodeSmith

I hate to say it, but Bill Buck has already got his "Care Package" from the Viscorp days.  Slander, hatred, flaming things thrown out and about the threads. (I don't think anyone auctioned off a wedding licence though... That *IS* a new low....)  To be honest, this kind of harsh treatment has followed many in our community.  

See: QuickPak, AntiGravity, Escom, C=, Scala, Gateway, Bernie Meyer, Harold Frank, Holger Kruse, and even Petro have all seen the results from the "dark side" of our community. The list is by no means all inclusive, but you get the idea. This kind of stuff will never stop completely, even if we find another golden era.

I'm not trying to jump down on anyone, but my reply to the rant is really just, "Flaming hate posts (and associated proofs) have always happened, it is happening now, and it will happen again."

[CodeSmith]

@Targhan

I'll spare you looking at the moobunny thread - basically, Bill McEwen's marriage license was among the documents that were auctioned off, and this set off a lively debate on how legal his marriage (apparently his second) is and how exactly he could have been abusing his wife's and children's trust while running Amiga Inc.  I can handle people making fun of how a company gets run, but this blatant penetration of privacy is just revolting.

[redrumloa]

Might`ve known it`d be a MOS freak who started this thread

I'm a MOS freak? Anyhow what is that supposed to mean? The rumor was started by Total Amiga Magazine who's chief editor(or whatever his title is) is MikeC. A self proclaimed Amiga Inc fan, and a member of the Amiga Inc insider secret mailing list.

[Targhan]

@CodeSmith

Well, when I said "didn't auction off a marriage licence," I meant it in regards of other "notables."  Obviously, McEwen's marriage licence is being (or has been) auctioned off.  Thus, my piece was really geared toward the whole topic of "dirt throwing" in general.  I apologize if I didn't word it well.  

[DoDo]

Anyone reading that thread on Moobunny (Thanks for the link) could be mistaken for thinking someone was being investigated for murder ......

Or wouldn't that warrant an investigation as thorough as the one taking place against A.Inc ?


That Rich Woods appears to be a decidely unsavoury individual ....  Is he related to Kevin Hisel perchance ?

 :-o

[CodeSmith]

@Targhan

Don't worry about it - sorry if I sounded like I was angry at you, I'm not.  What pissed me off was the moobunny thread.  I consider most of the bickering and name-calling that goes on in amiga chat sites as immature but harmless, but that particular thread crossed the line.  Maybe it reminded me of something disturbing I saw sometime ago and had forgotten, the case is that it really upset me.

[HMetal]

greenboy wrote:
Akey, I could present quite the timeline of who was frustrated and why.

greenboy, I would appreciate it if you would try to conduct yourself as the professional you claim to be and use my first name or the handle/username that I use to post. Afterall, we're not back in high school, where everyone forgot how to address people properly, are we?

Maybe I'll write something later about why Genesi has been a good fit - and why Amiga Inc was just a good cause to have a fit  ;  }

I know all about your version and how you didn't like that things didn't work out your way.  I've heard it before.  Unfortunately, for you, there are two sides to the story.  I also won't be going into it as it's not my place to talk about this. That's up to Gary if he so chooses.

[greenboy]

That certainly was a goofy reply for a simple tag that could as easily have been Ray, or HMetal. Funny, the Canadians I'm talking with don't seem to mistake context and venue, and seem to be able to accomodate some hick from the US...  This is not a business meeting. I'm wearing a grass-stained MorphOS T-Shirt and have dirt all over my legs. You can worry about your own professionalism, and I'll suffer at the hands of my own standards for dress and understanding of the medium, thank you ;  }

Sheesh.

As for "unfortunately", actually I feel that in the longer run I have been extremely fortunate. I like Genesi, I like the way developers are being treated, and I like being able to see them play a part in something instead of basically being pushed off to the side. Good leadership, I'm thinking, accomodates the input and initiative of more people whenever possible. If I am to be used, I prefer to be used WELL. And hey, I'm getting back with some of the QNX people I think highly of, in a constructive context. It's good to see something like that opening up again.

[Bodie]

@redrumloa

Hi red. The chief editor of Total Amiga Magazine isn't Mikey_C, it is Robert Williams.

[Targhan]

@Bodie

Nice Avatar!

[Bodie]

@Targhan

hehe thanx! :-)

Don't tell anyone, but that is the main character from the amazing Xbox game Halo.

/me ducks at verbal insults  :-D