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The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« on: July 10, 2003, 01:50:52 PM »
Who started the rumor and why? So it is in the Total Amiga's rumor column, but who told the mag? Also on the moobunny people are saying it is being reported on Amigaworld.net like fact. Is that true?The editor of Total Amiga is on the secret Amiga Inc insider mailing list right? Did Amiga inc themselves start this rumor? :-?

It does bring the question up that if it was true, would it even be an improvement? Collas was a good showman, but I remember thinking(at least initially) that BillMc and Fleecy would be an improvement for the classic platform. Now I don't know if honestly any ghost from the past can save the boat from sinking :-?
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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2003, 01:53:56 PM »
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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2003, 01:58:29 PM »
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"Buzz Word has heard that Amiga are about to get a new CEO but it won't be Garry Hare; apparently the whole Genesi/ Garry Hare story was a setup designed to produce confusion. The new CEO is a man who will bring many millions of investment dollars back into the company. The Man's name? Jim Collas."


I liked the man, but it'd be very unfortunate for him to come back after his sudden leave. He has a lot to explain. It may be pure gossip tho.
 

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2003, 02:06:44 PM »
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"Buzz Word has heard that Amiga are about to get a new CEO but it won't be Garry Hare; apparently the whole Genesi/ Garry Hare story was a setup designed to produce confusion. The new CEO is a man who will bring many millions of investment dollars back into the company. The Man's name? Jim Collas."


I liked the man, but it'd be very unfortunate for him to come back after his sudden leave. He has a lot to explain. It may be pure gossip tho.


...or they could be making it up for a larf.
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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2003, 02:07:36 PM »
I would believe it to be someone's idea of a joke.  You know, the old "let's print something outrageous and see how crazy the community gets" thing...

Hopefully it sold a few more magazines.  

In reference to Collas, he was probably the one man that I had the least interaction with during the Gateway period, but I remember him much differently than Bill McEwen seems to want us to believe.  The one person on this site to ask would be Kent, as he used to work at Gateway fairly closely with their Amiga effort, but not directly for them.  

Things under Gateway's Amiga at least SEEMED to be moving forward which is much more than can be seen or demonstrated currently.
 

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2003, 02:09:29 PM »
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Who started the rumor and why? So it is in the Total Amiga's rumor column, but who told the mag? Also on the moobunny people are saying it is being reported on Amigaworld.net like fact. Is that true?The editor of Total Amiga is on the secret Amiga Inc insider mailing list right? Did Amiga inc themselves start this rumor? :-?


If anyone is reporting this is fact, then it has better to be true. Otherwise it would be a clear case of lying the users in their face.

But I can't understand the meaning of starting a rumour like this. Who will gain anything from it, and what will they gain? More subsribers to the mag? Smokescreen from Amiga Inc's problems (but why bother about that at this point)?

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It does bring the question up that if it was true, would it even be an improvement? Collas was a good showman, but I remember thinking(at least initially) that BillMc and Fleecy would be an improvement for the classic platform. Now I don't know if honestly any ghost from the past can save the boat from sinking :-?


IMHO, we have seen enough showmen in Amiga Inc. And it will take *a lot* more than a new captain of the ship to prevent it from sinking all the way to the bottom. A huge amount of resources would be a start ...
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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2003, 02:11:49 PM »
Yeah, much better communication and marketing towards the community. However, this was the era when the "I'm excited about" type communications appeared. Despite that, I liked the man, and I still percept it as things have gone wrong despite his best efforts. I may be wrong though, but he left me with that impression.

But the sudden and complete cease of communication with the community suggests that his "excitement" and devotion towards the community was not that real as we felt.
 

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2003, 02:12:28 PM »
I'd bet a joke
 

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2003, 02:16:41 PM »
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Things under Gateway's Amiga at least SEEMED to be moving forward which is much more than can be seen or demonstrated currently.


I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Admittedly its down to the efforts of subcontractors, but things are definately moving more now than in 1999...
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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2003, 02:22:20 PM »
Hi
If IdeaEdge want to commit suicide / bankruptcy,
perhaps they will buy the other half of Amiga Inc
shares at bargain / fire sale price.

NetVentures does not want to sell their half of
shares. I bet Francis Wilde bought it and now
sold it to some fools. :)

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2003, 02:30:56 PM »
The first time I heard it was on here (can't remember which thread), then I read it on AmigaWorld.net.  I don't know which was posted first though.

I doubt it's true.
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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2003, 02:34:57 PM »
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but I remember him much differently than Bill McEwen seems to want us to believe.


So McBill started the rumour? Interesting theory.

Maybe it's true! Could be good news. Lets hope we get an Executive Update soon to clear things up.  Come on A.Inc, it's about time we had one I think :-)

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2003, 03:27:32 PM »
My opinion, and please read *opinion* carefullly:

I have no doubts that this is spin, pure and simple. First, there is no reason that either Jim Collas or IdeaEdge would invest in Amiga, Inc. Amiga owns nothign that would be of use to them. If Jim wanted the Tao technology, he would go to them directly: Amiga doesn't have an exclusive license to it.

Whether or not the Garry Hare thing was spin or not is something yet to be discovered. McEwen swore UNDER OATH in the Starte of Washington that Hare was taking over.

So now the question remains: What is the source of this information?

If it's Bill, then IMHO it's horse rubbish. If it isdn't Bill, and it isn't Collas, then it is definately horse droppings and should be treated accordingly. The only person I would believe this from is Jim Collas himself. I still have a lot of respect for him and a high opinion of him both as a person, and as a businessman.

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2003, 03:54:15 PM »
it says in total amiga (Buzz word section)

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Buzz word has heard that Amiga are about to get a new CEO but it won't be Garry Hare; Apparently the whole Genesi / garry hare story was a setup designed to produce confusion.

the new CEO is a man who will bring many millions of investments dollars back into the company.

quote END.

there is alot more but i wont write it down here, as if you want to know the rest you should get the mag, as easy as that (so i dont total amiga on my nerves) , anyway the mag is exellent and gave us alot of great reading, exellent mag.

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Re: The Jim Collas rumor, truth or rumor? I say rumor.
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2003, 04:02:58 PM »
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No I never heard back from you :-?
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